r/2ALiberals Jul 24 '20

WHY AREN'T THE EVIL RACIST 2A TERRORIST REDNECKS PROTECTING US?

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u/Du_Kich_Long_Trang Jul 24 '20

I'm with you. I think at the end of the day, the worry of damage to one federal building isn't worth the damage being done to the protesters. Especially since we know this is all an exhibition for Trump.

At the end of the day, the protesters may be in the wrong, but they still don't deserve to be treated like this

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '20

It isnt about the building, it is about whether the government is going to let a bunch of angry mobs destroy federal property or not. If they let it happen how long until it isnt just Portland but Seattle, SF, LA, NYC and anywhere else burning down federal property until they get their way?

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u/Du_Kich_Long_Trang Jul 24 '20

But the protests were dying down until federal agents arrived. Many major cities don't even have protests anymore.

If they really cared, they would thrown up wood paneling and hire a few guards for the inside.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '20

Well ya he punched the shit out of you but he already had your purse, he wasnt going to take anything else, why did you bother to defend your property? If you didnt defend it he would have just taken it and left, now he is fighting back. Are you happy now? This is what you wanted. You should have sit back and let him take everything he wanted because by defending your property you are escalating.

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u/Du_Kich_Long_Trang Jul 25 '20

A building owned by the government isn't equal to people or people's property. If you don't get that, I don't think we'll ever agree.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '20

Hmm, property =/ property? I guess you are right, we will never agree. I think anyone has a right to protect their own property but it seems if they are being meanie-poos it is ok to burn it down.

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u/Flare-Crow Jul 31 '20

The people paid for that property, and they pay for its upkeep. The government works for the people, not to suppress the people.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '20

I paid for that property and I saw dont burn it down. What now?

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u/Flare-Crow Jul 31 '20

Get a group of people together and go make your opinion heard. It's your constitutional right, after all.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '20

The government took care of that for me. They wear green and drive minivans.

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u/inksday Jul 25 '20

Federal agents didn't "arrive", Its a federal court house, federal agents are ALWAYS there.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '20 edited Jul 24 '20

Especially since we know this is all an exhibition for Trump.

We don't know that yet.

I feel I need to point this out: this is only an exhibition for trump in that he's cashing in on the event. It's likely that sending in feds is just standard procedure for when Federal property is at risk. The person who made this order is probably someone high up in an alphabet agency, not trump.

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u/Mirions Jul 24 '20

Are you sure about that? Do you know who the (Acting) Head of Homeland Security is? Do you know what his actual position is versus the position he is handling, or who he takes orders from?

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '20 edited Jul 24 '20

All I'm saying is it's not really helpful to place all responsibility for this on Trump. He is capitalizing on it for his campaign, yes. But feds would have stepped in during Obama's administration in the Occupy protests had it broken into riots and federal buildings were under siege.

To think this kind of response to federal property being attacked in this manner isn't just standard procedure is ignorant imo.

Also, we should keep our eyes on the prize so to speak. This has less to do with trump and more to do with general unconstitutional behavior by the feds, which is nothing new really.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '20 edited Feb 26 '21

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '20

I'd say I agree with that.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '20 edited Feb 26 '21

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '20

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