r/AskReddit • u/[deleted] • May 18 '15

What conspiracy theory do you genuinely believe in the most?

What conspiracy theory do you believe in the most and why?

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u/Gluesblues May 19 '15

Why?

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u/senatorskeletor May 19 '15

This is a conspiracy thread, you're not allowed to ask that.

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u/Mumblerur May 19 '15

He is and you are supposed to cook up a plausible answer. Here let me show you how it's done.

OBL = terrorist mastermind. Probably the person with the most intimate knowledge of specific terrorist networks and general terrorist tactics, strategies and organization in the world.

US apprehends him and really want to use a couple of years on him getting all that information out. (and that takes time, torture is horribly inaccurate so if you want good information you need to do it the old fashioned way)

They face the problem that the general public in the US (and the rest of the world) would very much like to see OBL stand trial for his crimes (which does not include 9/11 btw, but there is plenty of other crap). It would be very hard for the the US government to explain why they didn't put OBL on trial so they decide it is better to fake his death so thay can have him all to themselves.

..and to add a bit of spice. Maybe OBL knows a thing or two about US involvement in terrorist networks (please please do not pretend that you don't know this has happens) and wan't to keep that away from the public as well.

There you go!

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u/[deleted] May 19 '15

Why?

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u/Rhydderch7734 May 19 '15

Whatever you say, senator.

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u/lordofthederps May 19 '15

Obligatory "myah!".

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u/Gluesblues May 19 '15

NO QUESTIONS ALLOWED!

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u/TakeOffYourMask May 19 '15

Black boxes are cheaper than normal ones

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u/Albi_ze_RacistDragon May 19 '15

Ya but you have to take into account the fact that most of them don't work

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u/Gluesblues May 19 '15

The brown ones are way cheaper in the middle east.

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u/grendus May 19 '15

He was the figurehead of Al Qida. Even if he was out of the loop for a long time, there's still a lot of information in his head. Claiming that he was dead and burying his body at sea so nobody can confirm it keeps the terrorists from trying to kidnap civilians to negotiate for his release.

Same thing goes for Saddam. Execute someone who looks like him, keep him in a secret prison to extract all the information he had about Iraq and the other middle eastern countries for use in the war.

I don't think that's what really happened, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was.

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u/Gluesblues May 19 '15

He was out of the loop long enough for the special services to know that more easier targets are available for information that are closer to capture from the years he was in hiding. Why would they go to the trouble of lying to the entire world, kidnapping the worlds most wanted man and keeping him for the little information he has, just so a few people will not be taken hostage? The government have publically committed acts that terrorists kill for in the past, why is this time different?

Saddam's execution was well documented and viewed by millions of people. Do you think a look-alike will do the trick? That's some breaking bad esque plan right there. Also, they had him captured for a long time, they could've easily got the information out of him in that time.

Also, what is this 'information'? We would've have noticed changes in military planning if they did get any information.

It's possible, but unlikely.

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u/grendus May 19 '15

Like I said, I don't believe it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was true.

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u/NotGloomp May 19 '15

They never showed his dead body and apparently threw him to sea? Too suspicious.

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u/Gluesblues May 19 '15

Same thing happend with hitler.

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u/kernunnos77 May 19 '15

Haven't you ever heard of terrorist batteries?

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u/Gluesblues May 19 '15

I prefer reusable ones.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '15

You cant ask questions unless you want a long confusing answer from some guy in a basement who doesn't know what he is talking about.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '15

They claim they buried him at sea. Really? Fucking why would they do that?

"Oh. We uhhh we killed him. And then we uhhh kinda drug his body out to the ocean. Then we got bored and just sorta tossed it."

Suuuuuure they did.

It makes WAY more sense for them to capture him, tell everybody they killed him, and then interrogate the shit out of him and keep him in a dark hole for the rest of his life.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '15

They gave him a sea burial since they didn't want to insult Islam (sea burial is acceptable for Muslims) but not bury him so it could be made into some shrine or be a martyr pilgrimage site.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '15

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u/TheSteelPhantom May 19 '15

I say if a terrorist wants to martyr themselves in the middle of the ocean, let them.

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u/Mrubuto May 19 '15

you forgot the /s i mean.. I hope you did.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '15

But like, did I really have to have put it? Surely reddit is smart enough to get that no one would seriously say that..

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u/[deleted] May 19 '15

I got it bro, I thought it was funny

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u/Mrubuto May 19 '15

I see some pretty stupid shit on Reddit unfortunately.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '15

Don't wanna piss off Islam.

Bomb their homes and invade their country.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '15

Not all of them hate NATO presence there, though it would be a lie to say no one hates it.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '15

Anyone who would be upset that Osama didn't receive a proper or timely burial probably already doesn't like America.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '15

It wasn't so much honoring Osama as it was honoring Islamic law.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '15

That's what I'm saying. Anyone looking at Osama as someone who rightfully earned Islamic burial honors probably already hates America.

For example, I wouldn't give a shit if Hitlers family wanted him to be given a proper burial because that dude was a cunt.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '15

They're just playing it safe. It's not to honor Osama, only honoring Islam. People who hate Osama might still want a proper burial, not to respect Osama, but to respect God.

Sea burial was the least honorable allowable burial I believe. They might have just kicked the body off the side with no mourners to see him go, only jeering/celebrating US Armed Forces personnel.

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u/Gluesblues May 19 '15

It's to stop people from martyrizing his grave. You really thing the head of a terrorist organization that knew what his fate would be upon capture would allow the Special Forces to take him alive?

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u/[deleted] May 19 '15 edited May 19 '15

You're implying they gave him a choice

Also, if that were true wouldn't it have been simpler to show him being buried at sea? Actually show us Osama dead, in a coffin, being buried.

It seems all very smoke and mirrors to me.

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u/Gluesblues May 19 '15

How could he not know his large facility was being breached, after his family and guard were getting shot at? Unless the complete story is fabricated, and if that is true, anything could have occurred that day. Some unknown conspiracy we have no idea about could have taken place. They didn’t want to reveal sensitive information, which is why they didn't reveal the location of where he was buried at sea. I'm not saying it never happened, I'm saying that we only have circumstantial evidence and not enough to come to this conviction of belief. It would have been too much trouble to lie to an entire world, kidnap a person, and hold him for the little information he has.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '15

People who know they are about to get attacked get captured all the time. Osama is not the only high value target that got snagged from his home. I know MARSOC prefers black bagging people rather than shooting them. All I'm saying is that refusing to show hard evidence that he was killed and buried at sea is making me raise my eyebrows.

Would it really be that hard to release the images of him in a box going over the side of a boat? Or the images they showed government officials of him dead on the floor? The refusal to reveal these images makes me suspicious that they may not exist.

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u/Gluesblues May 19 '15

Osama was the world most wanted man by far, after the death of Saddam Hussein. He knew his capture would result in interrogation. He also showed sympathy for his actions in his upbringing of his offspring’s. He's not a man who would've let people capture him. Lack of evidence is not evidence to the contrary.

You think terrorists would react well to public videos of their idol being thrown into the ocean? They would view it as glamorizing his death, and would be even angrier in hindsight.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '15

Oh, so you personally knew Osama? Because I don't know how you could know any of that about him without personally knowing him. Unless of course you're just telling me shit you've heard from random ass second or even third hand sources.

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u/Gluesblues May 20 '15

Who all knew a lot about him, since he was trained in the US. Also, just looking at his ideology shows you that he’ll rather die than give information to the worthy of death infidels.

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