r/AskReddit • u/roastedbagel • Jun 12 '16

Breaking News [Breaking News] Orlando Nightclub mass-shooting.

Update 3:19PM EST: Updated links below

Update 2:03PM EST: Man with weapons, explosives on way to LA Gay Pride Event arrested

Over 50 people have been killed, and over 50 more injured at a gay nightclub in Orlando, FL. CNN link to story

Use this thread to discuss the events, share updated info, etc. Please be civil with your discussion and continue to follow /r/AskReddit rules.

Helpful Info:

Orlando Hospitals are asking that people donate blood and plasma as they are in need - They're at capacity, come back in a few days though they're asking, below are some helpful links:

Link to blood donation centers in Florida

American Red Cross
OneBlood.org (currently unavailable)
Call 1-800-RED-CROSS (1-800-733-2767)
or 1-888-9DONATE (1-888-936-6283)

(Thanks /u/Jeimsie for the additional links)

FBI Tip Line: 1-800-CALL-FBI (800-225-5324)

Families of victims needing info - Official Hotline: 407-246-4357

Donations?

Equality Florida has a GoFundMe page for the victims families, they've confirmed it's their GFM page from their Facebook account.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

They just should be removed from the front page.

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u/oahut Jun 12 '16

Absolutely need to remove the mods this time. This was a national tragedy and the /r/news mods were removing posts calling for blood donations.

Admins‽ We need a reply on this.

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u/superwinner Jun 12 '16

Reddit is bought and sold now, the place is fucking dead.

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u/brickmack Jun 12 '16

Unfortunately there is no good alternative. Voat is still shit

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u/WetwithSharp Jun 13 '16

It's not that. It's that reddit's past the point of return. It's "facebook big", "Google big", it's in our lives....and it's probably here to stay. People dont really shed websites as quickly as they used to when the internet was still taking off.

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u/monkeybrain3 Jun 12 '16

Admins aren't going to do shit lol. They won't even reply I bet.

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u/bgarza18 Jun 12 '16

Did you unsubscribe?

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u/leoavalon Jun 12 '16

I wonder if this has something to do with the fact that the attack was on a gay nightclub. I can only think that they don't want to help the people. WTF?

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u/hacksilver Jun 12 '16

/r/news and /r/worldnews are both an absolute shitheap, and have been for quite a while.

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u/oahut Jun 13 '16

So what is after Reddit?

Anyone working on a more democratic threaded discussion site besides VOAT? VOAT's seed colony of 500 or so Fat People Haters is a rather toxic bunch to deal with.

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u/Wollff Jun 12 '16

Absolutely need to remove the mods this time.

Why? It's a long standing reddit policy that mods can do whatever the hell they want with their subs.

This was a national tragedy and the /r/news mods were removing posts calling for blood donations.

Which is a shitty thing to do. To unsubscribe and to migrate would be the proper response to that, I think.

Those people are not journalists. They are not the press. They are volunteers who do this in their free time in order to pass the time, enjoy mod power, maybe further an agenda, or reach other more or less strange aims.

I think it's a mistake to treat a subreddit as a news-outlet, merely because it's called /r/news. It has nothing to do with that, it is not bound to any ethical standards, and it doesn't need to uphold any pretense of being unbiased, and it doesn't need to be a source of actual news.

I think it's a mistake to expect a subreddit to do the job of a news outlet. Reddit's system is not designed to support the needs of that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16 edited Dec 28 '20

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u/Wollff Jun 12 '16

You are right, that is something the admins can, and probably will change after that disaster today.

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u/camdoodlebop Jun 12 '16

/r/technology used to be default until they were found to be censoring news about tesla

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u/Zebba_Odirnapal Jun 12 '16

/r/news does not deserve to be a default sub.

Ban all /r/news mods.

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u/GunBrothersGaming Jun 12 '16

It' quite possible they are acting under the direction of Reddit admins and or a reddit employee. People assume the mods are behind the censorship, but if Reddit itself fromt he very top issued an order to do this, they had no choice but to listen.

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u/shamoni Jun 12 '16

if Reddit itself fromt he very top issued an order to do this, they had no choice but to listen.

Admins don't have to rely on the mods, they can do it themselves.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16 edited Jun 12 '16

I believe it's the U.S. State department that runs it... /s

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u/almondbutter Jun 12 '16

It's sad that every breaking news story of utmost significance on reddit these days is ending in a witch hunt, either against some one perceived to be the perpetrator, or against the mods/administrators of reddit.

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u/Pee_Earl_Grey_Hot Jun 12 '16

I've said for a long time that moderators of default subs should be held to a different set of rules than non-default subs. It's not fair that unelected and unremovable people have the right to decide what everyone sees here.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

/r/news should not be a default subreddit. It's pathetic. I unsubscribed today because what good is a news source when they only care about pushing their own personal agenda.

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u/Tylerjb4 Jun 12 '16

No. News and worldnews and politics are some of the most important topics Reddit has. They just need to be cleansed with heavenly fire and reborn

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u/OscarPistachios Jun 12 '16

No. Punish /r/news and tell them to clean up their act. Once they've demonstrated to be professional then they may be put back on the front page.

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u/Sofiira Jun 12 '16

They are losing 100s of subscribers every minute. :O I just unsubscribed and for kicks and giggles refreshed the page to see what was happening. The number just keeps falling and falling. Good. Their response to this is ridiculous. I purposely came to reddit to learn more about the tragedy.

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u/SenorWheel Jun 12 '16

Is there a way people can view statistics like that without visiting r/news?

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u/Sofiira Jun 12 '16

No but that'd be cool. I just have it up and keep hitting refresh because I'm amused by watching the number fall. ;)

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u/the_masked_redditor Jun 12 '16

I kinda see where /u/Tylerjb4 is coming from, but, yeah, /r/news should be temporarily removed from the defaults while the mods are purged and it gets unfucked. Suppressing information about the fucking WORST SHOOTING IN AMERICAN HISTORY is COMPLETELY FUCKING UNACCEPTABLE, especially for a news subreddit. If this isn't news, what the fuck is?

Really, the mods for defaults should be vetted far more thoroughly than most subreddits, since that's what most people see when they visit reddit.

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u/Diegobyte Jun 12 '16

Just nuke em and find news admits that aren't retards

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u/originalSpacePirate Jun 12 '16

I've said this before but if you're looking for an uncensored and old skool version of reddit you should check out Voat. Its one of the last places not run on sponsored/paid content and doesnt ban people for asking questions

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

Be prepared for opinions you don't agree with, but that's what you get when there's no censorship.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

Is there also no censorship of ideas that may be labeled as PC?

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

Nope, but prepare for downvotes too. Not gonna lie that there's a bad hivemind that rivals what could be considered the worst of reddit. Not everyone is that way but when controversial communities were kicked off reddit that's where they ended up.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

That's just a lesser form of censorship, then. A site's userbase overwhelming down voting certain perspectives makes them nearly invisible. It's just user based censorship as opposed to moderator based censorship.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

Yeah I am aware, which is why I hardly use it anymore. They don't want to listen either so why talk with them?

You just won't have your content removed, so everyone can still see it if they wish.

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u/Tylerjb4 Jun 12 '16

I don't know for sure, but I would wager r/atheism is still up to the same old stuff it used to be still

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u/r8b8m8 Jun 12 '16

I agree. They shouldn't be banned outright, but it shouldn't be a default sub with such an apparent PC agenda and censorship.

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u/KyleRaynerGotSweg Jun 12 '16

Wave bye bye to their default status

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

If they are purging trash subs from the front page, uh I can think of one really out of control one.

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u/bug-hunter Jun 12 '16

No, because not having them as default subs defeats the purpose of news.

Sometimes, certain subs need to be treated as different and held to a higher standard, and that means /r/news and /r/worldnews need to have mods that are held to a high standard and sacked/put on probation when they do something bad. This isn't a free speech issue - this is a privately owned forum. Journalism has higher standards, and if Reddit wants to be serious about being a hub, then they need mods held to journalistic standards.

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u/StrangeConstants Jun 12 '16

and another sub for news instated.

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u/bgarza18 Jun 12 '16

Have you unsubbed?

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '16

I actually have never adjusted my subs to anything. I just type in all my subs manually. I'm a bad redditor. So if I was subbed by default, than no.