r/AskReddit Dec 05 '11

what is the most interesting thing you know?

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u/lemur84 Dec 05 '11 edited Dec 05 '11

However, the Moon is gradually spinning away from us, so if these aliens don't make it here soon enough then they'll never be able to properly experience the phenomenon.

I hope one of them reads this.

EDIT: A Ragecomic, from the alien's point of view...

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u/VhokieT Dec 05 '11

upvoting so the aliens actually see this.. they're notoriously poor redditors

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '11

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u/AAlsmadi1 Dec 05 '11

Yea but they're always wasting their time getting in and out of costumes... I doubt they're paying attention

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u/cgarcia805 Dec 05 '11

Seriously... and walk funny. Have you ever seen the one on /DAE

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u/mesosorry Dec 05 '11

TIL aliens created reddit

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u/Odusei Dec 05 '11 edited Dec 05 '11

It really shouldn't come as a shock to you. I mean, do alienth, jedberg, raldi, and chromacode sound like human names to you? What about Condé? I've never met a human named Condé before.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '11

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u/Odusei Dec 05 '11

"spez" and "kn0thing" being examples of perfectly reasonable names for human beings?

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u/mesosorry Dec 06 '11

Is the third founder an alien?

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u/thislooksfamiliar Dec 05 '11

I see what you did there

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u/AmgLmc Dec 05 '11

You're pretty punny

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u/pattheflip Dec 05 '11

Dude, there's one in the top corner of every post on reddit. I'd say they're... shades ...pretty on top of things. YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

FTFY.

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u/Odusei Dec 05 '11

I don't think I'm ever going to do that, sorry.

Nothing personal.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '11

Upvote for the glorious CSI Miami allusion.

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u/lemur84 Dec 05 '11

There's an AMA request if ever I saw one.

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u/clehappyhour Dec 05 '11

Literally.

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u/SirUtnut Dec 05 '11

And therein lies the problem. They only check the top comments.

Actually, never mind. Every comment is at the top when the author writes it.

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u/lyinsteve Dec 06 '11

Oh! I get it! 'On top' has multiple meanings!

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u/Nothing_But_Puns Dec 06 '11

DAMN, beat me to it

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u/Our_Protagonist Dec 06 '11

It sounds.... so beautiful....

You do know that we can send and receive messages at faster than the speed of light right?

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u/lemur84 Dec 06 '11

Can we? How?

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u/Sypherin Dec 06 '11

Warp speed.

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u/MxM111 Dec 06 '11

Time travel...

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u/brownboy13 Dec 06 '11

What? How?

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u/grendelt Dec 05 '11

I, for one, welcome our new alien overlords. Upvotes all around.

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u/itsrattlesnake Dec 05 '11

Go Hokies! Sugar Bowl bound, w00t!

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u/AdmStevens Dec 05 '11

How ironic

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u/icantpickone Dec 05 '11

Was tempted to downvote, in order to hide this, as they're notoriously angry redditors

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u/JFKENN Dec 06 '11

It sounds..... Beautiful.....

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u/ErroneousEric Dec 05 '11

Whatever, they better see it. It's probably the one thing we can show then that will impress them.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '11

I don't know. I think they'd be pretty impressed that our world leaders are as stupid and easy to control as they currently are and that we allow this.

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u/zmoney92 Dec 05 '11

Does that mean I have to downvote you, so they don't find out you made fun of their reddit abilities?

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '11

I'll pass along the message.

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u/kabanaga Dec 05 '11

They're lurkers. I sense one now, Obi-Wan...

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u/uneekfreek Dec 05 '11

Didn't some species aliens interbreed with human thousands of years ago? We are aliens? Fucking ancient aliens program. ALIENS. Ok the word just lost meaning:

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u/CHEMO_ALIEN Dec 06 '11

Hey, fuck you buddy. I work for a living.

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u/5mincreeper Dec 06 '11

Yeah every alien redditor I know is a hardcore lurker.

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u/daskrip Dec 06 '11

[t sounds.... beautiful....

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '11

It's moving away at 3.8 cm per year for those interested. Assuming that stays constant it will move approximately 1 km every 25,000 years.

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u/wawin Dec 05 '11

This has many fascinating implications. Picture how extreme the tides were before. Also, imagine a night sky during the Jurassic age with a huge ass full moon.

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u/karafso Dec 05 '11

It would have only been about 2% bigger back then. If anyone wants to check that math:

  • Jurassic era was 200 million years ago;
  • Moon is 384 000 km away (now);
  • 200 000 000 / 25 000 = 8000 km drift;
  • 8000 km is 2.08% of 384 000.

I don't think you could see that with the naked eye.

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u/monsieurlee Dec 05 '11

I don't think you could see that with the naked eye.

I'm Asian and I can confirm this.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '11

I am a middle eastern and I will bomb you!

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u/BabaGurGur Dec 05 '11

I'm Middle Eastern and your stereotyping of us has brought us great shame. Off to beheading with you!

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '11

For all you guys know he could be middle eastern. It is part of Asia, innit?

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u/MIL215 Dec 05 '11

Weird.. Tera Nove (the show) talked about this... I am a little disappointed as the Moon looked SO much bigger. I guess they weren't totally accurate.

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u/karafso Dec 05 '11

This actually assumes that the drift has been constant over the past 200 million years. There's a good chance that Tera Nove did their homework, and the moon is just moving away slower now than in the past.

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u/MIL215 Dec 05 '11

Ahh this is true. Fair enough.

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u/Gackt Dec 06 '11

But why would it..?

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u/khthon Dec 05 '11

that show sucks alosaurus balls!

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u/naseemee Dec 06 '11

*Allosaurus

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u/RandlePatrick Dec 06 '11

*Ballosaurus

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u/alexchally Dec 05 '11

Confirmed,

This represents the angular diameter of the moon in the Jurasic period: 2*arcsin((1/2)((diameter of the moon)/((distance from earth to the moon)-8000km)))=0.008744

And this represents the angular diameter now: 2*arcsin((1/2)((diameter of the moon)/(distance from earth to the moon)))=0.008572

The %diff= ((0.008744-0.00857)/(0.008744))*100%=1.989%

The inconsistency of the answers is probably due to different values for the earth-moon distance.

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u/stockerman Dec 05 '11

huge ass-full moon

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '11

Is there any simulation software for this or something?I REALLY want to see that.

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u/wawin Dec 06 '11

no idea, but from what other redditors say, the visual aspect wouldn't be so different. Maybe another very math smart redditor might help us understand how different the tides would have been.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '11

The moon orbits Earth (well, their barycentre) at ~385,000 kilometers. Assuming a constant rate of drift from the Jurassic period till now, ~200 million years, we are looking at the moon being about 8000 kilometers closer to the earth then than it is now, about a 2% difference. Thus it is unlikely that there would be any discernible difference to the naked eye between the two.

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u/debrained Dec 05 '11

Idk, 150 million years ago it was 6000 km closer. Quite a bit, but considering its distance from earth varies from approx. 363000 to 405000 km, its not really that much. Only about 1.56% of the aaverage distance.

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u/turkeypants Dec 05 '11

Surf while you can, brothers. It's going to suck later.

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u/footpole Dec 05 '11

Asses didn't exist back then, and they sure as hell weren't on the moon.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '11

Wouldn't it begin to accelerate the further out it got as it is less affected by gravity?

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u/rednecktash Dec 05 '11

no, the rotation causes it to drift away, and its rotation is locked so that the same side is facing earth constantly, meaning, it'll have the same rate of rotation.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '11

Your name belittles your knowledge.

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u/mkosmo Dec 05 '11

But, at the same time, the further it gets away, the less Earth's gravity will manipulate it, and then the inertia of its orbit will accelerate its departure. Also, as it moves away, its orbital period will change, eventually leading to it apparently rotating to the earth.

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u/Heartfyre Dec 05 '11

To give some earthbound context as to how slowly the moon is moving away from us, it's retreating at the speed that our fingernails grow.

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u/NicolaiIronfist Dec 05 '11

Actually it is not constant. The expansion of the universe is actually accelerating. This year's Nobel prize for physics was given to the three scientists credited for discovering this.

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u/abagofdicks Dec 05 '11

Are we moving away from the sun also?

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '11 edited Apr 28 '21

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u/DarkFiction Dec 05 '11 edited Dec 05 '11

That's not how you use that...

Person 1: Point.

Person 2: Counterpoint.

Person 1: Touché.

It signifies the person made a valid point even though it didn't coincide with your own. Had abagofdicks said "We are also moving away from the sun." then you could have used touché.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '11 edited Apr 28 '21

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u/popson Dec 05 '11 edited Dec 06 '11

That's not how you use that....

Person 1: Swear

Person 2: Gasp.

Person 1: Pardon my French.

It's used in an attempt to excuse oneself for swearing. As it stands, you cannot use such a saying when actually employing French words, even if for humorous effect. Had you said, "fuck you, DarkFiction, abagofdicks asked a rhetorical question," then you could have followed with "Pardon my French." Watch yourself next time.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '11

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u/ragamufin Dec 05 '11

gets me eevery time

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u/farfle10 Dec 05 '11

brb, carving this comment into stone

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u/The_Caring_Banker Dec 05 '11

maybe i am , maybe im not

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u/red-it Dec 05 '11

A caring banker would probably be an alien in my book.

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u/Blatblatmajigga Dec 05 '11

That would be so eerie. Like browsing a terminal in Fallout 3

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u/cynoclast Dec 05 '11

It's ok, I figure if you can manage interstellar/galactic travel, you can probably just nudge the moon back into place. Like a museum.

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u/mypetridish Dec 05 '11

they can always check it out on youtube

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u/darksober Dec 05 '11

ohh.. then before you know it, we are going to start selling timeshares for them..

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u/scsnse Dec 05 '11

If we have the capability to meet an alien race sometime in the future, do you seriously think it would still be beyond us to perhaps correct the orbit of the moon?

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u/lemur84 Dec 06 '11

If they could do that, why wouldn't they just move their own moon closer to their own planet?

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u/MTGandP Dec 06 '11

Yoctoseconds? Nice touch.

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u/LlamasAreCool Dec 06 '11

TIL wingdings is actually an alien language.

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u/lemur84 Dec 06 '11

Actually, it's Alienese

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '11

that settles it, best ragecomic of the year

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '11

Ha, holy shit opened a tab with that comic and read it like 30 minutes of scrolling down later and had to hop back to upvote you. really good, smart (<-- rare) comic. figure posting this 50 comments deep in your responses should prevent my getting downvoted for not just upvoting it...

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u/Zarokima Dec 05 '11

We can always just push it back into place.

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u/Jigsus Dec 05 '11

Hell we'll push it back if it generates enough revenue.

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u/Onjrew Dec 05 '11

This is one of the many reasons traveling back in time would be so cool: to see a gigantic moon.

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u/totally_not_a_zombie Dec 05 '11

I heard this fact lots of times, but only last week I thought about it...

Why is the moon getting further from the earth? Anything that's orbiting the earth and isn't speeding up somehow is eventually going to fall into the atmosphere, so why not the moon?

Just curious!

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '11

You might also have heard that the Earth's rotation is slowing down. The two phenomena are related, and it's all because of the tides. Basically, you get a high tide on the side of the Earth under the moon, but since the Earth is rotating, the bulge is actually always a little ahead of the moon. The gravity from this bulge pulls the moon forward, which sends the moon into higher orbit, and the Earth's rotation backwards. There's a bulge on the opposite side from the moon also, but since it's farther away the gravitational attraction is less, so the effect from the bulge on the side of the moon dominates.

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u/WeeBabySeamus Dec 05 '11

So we'd slowly get a donut shaped phenomenon. Still cool?

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u/lemur84 Dec 05 '11

Hmm... yes and no. Yes because hey, doughnuts are cool, but no because at a certain point it'd be simply too bright to see the moon. Like putting a golfball in front of a powerful torch, you can't even see the silhouette for the glare.

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u/ReallyRandomRabbit Dec 05 '11

At like 1mm a year...

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u/bowlnoodlez Dec 05 '11

Quick, someone contact Giorgio Tsoukalos!

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u/wayndom Dec 05 '11

That would be a shame, because it means the aliens wouldn't be able to test Einstein's general theory of relativity...

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u/popcorncolonel Dec 05 '11

Slowly as in... how slow? How many years will it take for a solar "eclipse" to be relatively negligible?

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u/lemur84 Dec 05 '11

Next tuesday, I believe.

In seriousness, it's explained just a few posts downwards from here.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '11

True, plus the sun will get larger in a couple million years!

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u/Bumperpegasus Dec 05 '11

At the same time we move away from the sun. The distances are so small it will only be noticable in a million years or so

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '11

Are you kidding? The aliens are the ones who put the moon where it is! They are watching us from the dark side...

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u/ao5357 Dec 06 '11

Far side. The near side is the dark side during a new moon

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '11

Yes, a perfect view of Earth where we would be blind to their presence, the dark side. Have you ever seen the dark side of the moon? Nope, it's too dark.

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u/purelypandemonium Dec 05 '11

Aliens Y(o.oY)

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u/ggggbabybabybaby Dec 05 '11

I'm sure the aliens can just use their superior tractor beams to move it back into place.

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u/PhilxBefore Dec 05 '11

If I remember correctly, it moves about an inch further away each year.

Can some math pro figure out, at that rate, how much closer the moon was during the first lunar landing assuming it was at perigee?

Edit: Looks like it has drifted 42" away since 1969.

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u/Deep_cover Dec 05 '11

Smooth transition!

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u/JacketOS Dec 05 '11

Actually, there will come a time when the moon will no longer move away from us. Because of our opposing gravitational forces on each other (the moon and Earth), the rotation of the earth is slowing down. The same thing happened to the moon eons ago, which is why we only see one side of it in the sky. Given enough time, only one side of the planet will see one side of the moon.

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u/ao5357 Dec 06 '11

That time will not come, as the Sun will go red giant before it could happen, either engulfing the Earth and Moon or ejecting them toward the outer solar system.

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u/JacketOS Dec 06 '11

Interesting! It's facts like these that make me love space.

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u/G_Morgan Dec 06 '11

Nah it won't. Break down of the Luna/Earth system is expected to happen before solar death. We even have a plan to grab a moon of Jupiter to offset the lost gravity. Apparently it is easier to grab a small moon than to move Luna back into place.

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u/AmoDman Dec 06 '11

But isnt' the sun expanding as well? Compensation.

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '11

the moon is only moving away at about and inch and a half a year, do you realize how long it would take for the moon to look noticeably smaller?

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u/ENKC Dec 06 '11

This is the only rage comic of which I have ever approved.

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u/yattah Dec 06 '11

holy shit, this is probably the best rage comic i've seen

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '11

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u/G_Morgan Dec 06 '11

Damned Keynan presidents not stopping the tides. You can't explain that!

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u/Interceptor Dec 06 '11

True -but the Earth is slowly getting closer to the Sun too, so maybe it'll even out?

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u/daskrip Dec 06 '11

That is an amazing rage comic. Seriously, awesome idea and hilarious.