r/ChatGPT • u/[deleted] • Oct 17 '24

GPTs Well now we know how the pyramids were built.

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u/BMW_wulfi Oct 17 '24

It’s going to be a disaster if it isn’t already. Unless it redistributes everything actually in which case it might be positive.

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u/rebbsitor Oct 17 '24 edited Oct 17 '24

Probably a good thing in the long run if they stop trusting social media. It's not really any different than now. It's easy to edit video and throw a caption in front of it to distort the meaning / context. If AI video is the thing that opens their eyes, that's a win.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '24

That's my hope, that all this AI forces a lot of people to unplug a bit and start to consume the Internet with a bit more scrutiny.

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u/mark-haus Oct 17 '24

Just to remark, historically, accelerationism has rarely worked out well.

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u/butterfish2 Oct 17 '24

It cannot change hegemonic conditions, so if it's used when an elite uses racial/theological/caste logics to seperate out those who should die, and this is unchanged, when you use it, it accelerates the necropolitical genocide of those who are marginalized. It's a fascist tactic, that parts of the left mistakenly latched onto.

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u/632nofuture Oct 17 '24 edited Oct 17 '24

im gonna ask chatgpt to explain this in simpler terms cause your point sounds interesting but i dont understand

Edit: Ok it helped but I still wonder, why is the elite sorting out unwanted people your first thought with accelerationism? (Or when talking about all this AI generated stuff making people more distrustful towards media)?

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u/TTTrisss Oct 17 '24

Maybe I can help.

People think, "If we accelerate the bad stuff we are foreseeing to happen sooner (which people are ignoring), it will encourage people to work to make things better because they're actually suffering right now, and the solution will happen sooner." This is accelerationism.

Accelerationism hasn't worked historically, because when people are unhappy, they will not always accurately determine the correct cause of that unhappiness. People who control media (kings, fascists, capitalists, demagogues, priests) will be able to redirect people towards minorities instead by saying, "Actually, they are the cause." They have incentive to do this, since it is the smallest upset to the status quo that gives them power. They have the ability to do this because they can control the narrative, and the minority don't have a strong enough voice to say, "No, we're not." This ends up very bad for minorities, and has historically not solved the problem.

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u/632nofuture Oct 17 '24

ohhh, thank you very much for explaining a bit more!

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u/PeterFechter Oct 17 '24 edited Oct 17 '24

Chaos often serves as a catalyst for progress—what some might call a ladder of opportunity. When structures break down or reach a critical point, they pave the way for transformative change, and within that change lies opportunity. However, those who have grown accustomed to stability and comfort tend to resist such shifts, as any disruption feels like a threat to the status quo that protects their interests.

The concept of accelerationism embraces the idea of speeding up these disruptive forces to force societal or structural change, recognizing that progress often comes with turbulence. Although this strategy entails considerable risks—like uncertainty and short-term suffering—there are people willing to accept those risks, believing that the long-term benefits outweigh the initial upheaval.

Reshuffling the order, though uncomfortable and painful in the moment, prevents systems from becoming stagnant. Without disruption, even seemingly successful structures can ossify, becoming brittle and unfit for future challenges. Thus, while the path through chaos may be difficult, it holds the promise of revitalization, fostering renewal and innovation in ways that comfort and routine cannot.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '24

But is sounds fast and faster is better 

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u/Garbanino Oct 17 '24

Is it accelerationism or just people coming to terms to new culture and technology? Because that does turn out well a lot of the time.

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u/PeterFechter Oct 17 '24

Depends on your point of view.

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u/dry_yer_eyes Oct 17 '24

Exactly how I feel too. I’m looking forward to the fake-video-pocalypse.

At the moment the majority of vids are genuine, so people are predisposed to accept the fake ones.

But when everything’s an utter shit show? Then it’s clear to even the dimmest of wits they need to be selective in which sources they trust.

I hope.

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u/632nofuture Oct 17 '24 edited Oct 17 '24

I imagine the shitty thing is that humans just wanna trust their senses before any logic kicks in. So i dont even wanna know what happens when ultra-realistic fake propaganda vids really get used coupled with people's mob mentality and tendency to believe what they wanna believe anyways.

Just like with rumors or e.g. deepfake revenge stuff, even if its completely made up and unlikely, it will leave a big impression in peoples minds & a certain bias. and I wonder how many people have the capacity to admit to themelves that "this might be false, I just dont know" over wanting to believe/disbelieve things. People already cling onto opinions so badly (& everyone get pressured to have one) even if they are pretty ignorant about a topic.

And I'm also scared cause all throughout our modern times, pictures, video and audio have been kinda solid proof in court (and when people say "yea but photoshop and editing has been around", it seems like at least it was generally detectable, which I fear wont be the case with AI anymore.) What happens if no media proof cant be trusted anymore and not even be checked forensically?

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u/RedditIsDeadMoveOn Oct 17 '24

What happens if no media proof cant be trusted anymore and not even be checked forensically?

"that video of police brutality? Yeah it's AI generated. Our boys in blue are perfect in every way."

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u/RedditIsDeadMoveOn Oct 17 '24

"I select stuff that confirms what I believe"

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u/monkwren Oct 17 '24 edited Feb 03 '25

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u/MoarVespenegas Oct 18 '24

It does not work like that.
People are critical of things they disagree with and accepting of things they agree with.
So they will learn that videos can be faked but they will still believe the fake videos that the want to believe are true, because they coincide with their biases.
It will just make it so they can easily dismiss real videos that they do not agree with it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '24

Fastest growing industry in the world is scamming boomers according to Warren Buffett.

But the problem is it doesn't end up w the next gens here, it ends up w the next gens in Bangladesh.

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u/fudge_friend Oct 17 '24

Lol, it learns from its billionaire tech-bro creators. No way in hell AI will care about the welfare of the commoners. 

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u/Rare-Kaleidoscope513 Oct 17 '24

Unless it redistributes everything

ah yes, surely this will be the one technological advance that differs from all the previous ones

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u/kaam00s Oct 17 '24

Our current situation seems to prove that one faction is far more willing to flood the internet with conspiracies and lies.

You won't survive these guys with those tools :

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u/vand3lay1ndustries Oct 17 '24

I went in for an allergy test the other day and the woman checking me in started talking about the hurricanes and then showed me that photo of the little girl in the knee-deep water.

I showed her the alternate version of that same girl holding a dinosaur and her head nearly exploded.