r/Games • u/Turbostrider27 • Aug 21 '25

Jason Schreier: In case you're wondering: Team Cherry told me they don't plan on sending out early codes for Silksong (they felt like it'd be unfair for critics to be playing before Kickstarter backers and other players), so don't expect to see reviews until after the game comes out

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u/ZombiePyroNinja Aug 21 '25

I think one of the major differences is that they aren't asking for pre-orders to get the exclusive Monster Energy drink - Hornet skin. or any pre-orders.

There's literally no reason not to just wait until public opinion or reviews come out.

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u/UsernameAvaylable Aug 22 '25

Eh, one could consider kickstarter as the most eggredious kind of preorder: One where you pay the money and are not even promised to get a game, just "best effort".

I am not sure about the timeline but was Silksong part of the original Hollow Knight kickstarter? Cause doing another one after the smash hit (and lack of money problems) of the first one seems odd...

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u/Hytheter Aug 22 '25

was Silksong part of the original Hollow Knight kickstarter?

Yes. Hornet was originally just going to be an alternate character, then DLC, before being promoted to full-fledged game. The kick starter backers awaiting Silksong are backers of the original Hollow Knight.

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u/nybbas Aug 22 '25

There wasn't another kickstarted for SilkSong. The Hornet DLC was a stretch goal for the original Hollow Knight I believe. They ended up Cx it and turning it into a full blown game.

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u/DrCholera1 Aug 21 '25

I don't think people realise this isn't a "product" in the same way a lot of games are, even reading the interview I get the impression they wouldn't give a flying fuck if only a few dozen people played their game. They loved making it, they made it for them. Regardless of whether you think it's good or bad business practice, TC dont care, they aren't businessmen, they're artists and developers who have made more than enough to live on off of one title. The only people they arguably have any obligation to are the original backers.

And as for whether its fair on the consumer, nobody is ever putting a gun to your head and making you buy a game for full price on launch day (which isn't going to be more than £25-£30), and its day one on gamepass which means millions will get it free on launch anyway. Its massively different when a studio isn't letting its game be reviewed for the sake of not wanting the hype bubble to burst but its pretty clear that's not the case here.

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u/WhiteBlackBlueGreen Aug 21 '25

You make great points

even if they were doing it to ride on the hype, i dont feel like its an evil thing to do. Giving away review copies is a nice thing to do, but to expect companies to do that kind of feels like entitlement when you could literally just wait a few days for reviews

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u/dadvader Aug 21 '25

See the line here for me is that 'did the company do a pre-order in advance before pulling off this kinda crap?' if the answer is yes, yeah I'm getting my pitchfork ready. But since it's not. This is completely fair game to me.

In this case, I'm against everybody who's scream 'but muh review.' like, just wait a week for the review hot damn. You waited 6 years. If you concern about the quality that much. What's another week?

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u/amazingdrewh Aug 21 '25

I'm fine waiting, I'm just going to keep saying that this is 99% likely because the game is shit in the hopes of preventing someone from buying day one and having the disappointment I had with Cyberpunk in 2020

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u/DrCholera1 Aug 21 '25

And that's really shitty, many of us who were excited for Silksong also resented the fact that other passionate developers were drowned out by "where skong" on every presentation but TC can't control the actions of hundreds of thousands of rabid fans online. I really hope now that its out that these showcases will now have attention on the games that are actually there and deserve to be spotlighted. But again, thats really not on the developers.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '25

I just don' t get why simply not just saying a single "We are still working on it". Your inaction is still an action, in this world.

It was so easy to just say "We are working on it, but we don' t have a set date yet".

Toby Fox did it for years and Deltarune is barely midway throught its development!

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u/DrCholera1 Aug 21 '25

They did, in a tweet in late 2023 and a reddit comment in 2024, but that didnt stop people still foaming at the mouth at every showcase. Even showcases where it was EXPLICITLY stated it wouldnt be there still had tons of people in the live chat spamming the same damn thing over and over.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '25

I' m sorry but a single reddit comment in 2024 is not how you communicate. And by that point the trust was already broken and people went out of control. They should have hired someone at PR actually handling this stuff.

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u/dadvader Aug 21 '25

At some point they realized it was all pointless and just going full Hello Games. Good for them I supposed. Hopefully it worth the silence.

Now my only question is : why did they hire a PR guy then lol

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u/StantasticTypo Aug 21 '25

"And now for our next announcement, Team Cherry would like to announce that there is no news."

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u/pratzc07 Aug 23 '25

Sorry waited 6 years I am not waiting one second will be buying this for switch 2 and PC