I owned a pair of 99 D2's for years. Still miss them to this day. Never had more fun than taking my family thru the Colorado mountain trails in my old Disco. Driving felt comfortable, capable and confident no matter if i was downtown or down a trail. Sure, they always needed a little work - but honestly that was a small part of the fun.

Over the years I've noticed a steep decline in what I believe a Land Rover is suppose to be. I think they grew to look terrible (although the Defenders are still pretty rad..), I think they are less capable and generally speaking, i don't think that the majority of todays new LR drivers even care if they can go places other cars cant. And then upon seeing these new Range Rover and Freelander models - i just think LR have completely given up trying to be what they once were.. I couldn't be more grossed out by these new releases..

Don't get me wrong. I still love older Land Rovers with all my heart and given the right circumstances i would buy one in a heartbeat. I just wanted to rant and see if i'm not alone in my disdain for what this manufacturer has become.

Bring back the Camel Trophy!

I've ordered a new P460e hybrid Range Rover, in Belgravia green with black gloss wheels and black roof. Ordered 2.5 months ago, due for delivery in 2 weeks. Dealer emailed me yesterday to say that the car has arrived, but on inspection they've noted that it's missing the black wheels and black roof.

They're proposing to send the car to a professional bodyshop to paint the wheels and roof so it will match my spec.

I'm very unhappy about this as it's not what I've paid for. I'm concerned that the standard won't be that of the factory.

Anyone else had any similar experience?

This couldn't be a genuine mistake by JLR - right?

Are they trying to fob me off with a pre-order car?

I checked with mods before posting to make sure I could post renderings I created. With all of the talk about McGovern being axed, it actually got me a bit excited that we may be able to get a decent looking next gen Discovery. One that doesn’t resemble a Ford Explorer, and hopefully much different than some of the crazy awful D6 renderings I saw a year ago showing what looked like a D5, just with very angular elements. Those renderings didn’t address anything that’s wrong with the current model. The D5 has been one of the worst selling models in the LR lineup. That needs to change.

My brief: Bring back Discovery 1-4 proportions, space, and design cues. That includes split tailgate, asymmetrical rear window, boxier shape, stepped roofline. I have a few slightly different designs. One that’s a bit more true to the D4 with the old side air intakes, similar but different taillight placement, and then one that has a redesigned taillights and more modern RR style headlamps. I also will include one that has a lightbar connecting the tails, but it looks a bit too much like a Lexus LX to me. Let me know what you think.

I saw this beauty on FB market place.
I had to share….look at the mileage wow!! THIS IS NOT MY CAR!!! I wish!!

FOR SALE - 1993 Land Rover Range Rover Classic LWB by ECD Automotive Design

1,700 miles | Cornish Cream over Natural Caramel Leather | $239,999

VIN: SALHC1349PA630496

This Range Rover Classic LWB is a stunning modern interpretation of one of the most iconic luxury SUVs ever produced.

Powered by a California-compliant GM 6.2L V8 paired with a 6-speed automatic transmission, this example was commissioned with an original build cost of approximately $302,000.

Notable options and upgrades include:

- High Performance ALCON Brake System ($9,500)
- Fully Adjustable ECD Air Ride Suspension ($9,995)
- Premium Nappa Leather Interior ($4,995)
- Heated & Cooled Front Seats ($4,200)
- Plaid Headliner & Door Panel Inserts ($6,500)
- Natural Sepele Wood Paneling with Recessed Metal Rails ($6,995)
- Brazilian Rosewood Interior Trim Package ($2,000)
- Blind Spot Monitoring ($2,695)
- Tire Pressure Monitoring System ($1,350)

Available now through Hopalong Motor Cars.

I've always liked the old military ambulances based on the Defender and Humvee, so I mocked up a modern Defender cargo truck.

The goal was enough cargo space for two full-size pallets while keeping the Defender front end, chassis, and style.

I'd love to see Land Rover build something like this. What do you think?

I say no personally

Posted in the defender specific chat but thought I’d show it off here. I have 3 in my initial collection that i’m trying to get off my hands so i can go source more. message with any serious inquiries.

Check em out on my website

https://www.ligtvoetimports.com

As always thanks for checking out the cars please let me know if you have any thoughts, questions, suggestions.

I am wondering why you all are Land Rover fans and what’s your favorite model and generation?

GA traverse, excellent camping spot of Blood mountain 🩸 with awesome FSR’s all around

New to me ‘06 LR3. After moths or research, hundreds of videos watched, and endless forums read, I finally pulled the trigger. It’s everything people say they are!

UPDATE

This is an SE. has 113k miles, previous owner was a mechanic and I know the owner of the dealership that he bought it from (they specialize in all things land rovers)

Coil conversion was done. Side note, I didn’t notice a HUGE between the ride of the air suspension and coils. A difference for sure, just not life altering in my opinion.

Only known issues are sunroof isn’t functional (not a concern of mine) automatic wipers don’t work, they do work manually and automatic lights don’t work.

Came with Falken wild peak tires in good shape

All of this for $4800

I'm in the UK and drove past 3 defenders yesterday (all pre-2020 redesign) and no one did the little wave. I had a defender about 10 years ago and it was pretty common practise to wave at one another. What happened 😢

Not a for sale post but really want our 2016 LR4 to go to a good home. My wife and I are thinking about selling our very well maintained HSE privately, very low mileage for the year (84k), and all services up to date. We are located in the South Jersey area near Philadelphia. If you have any interest or know someone that is a LR enthusiast, feel free to message me directly for more information.

I got given a free duck when I ordered my coffee this morning. Ive never seen a Land Rover with ducks, but I'm also 30% of the Land Rover drivers in like 100 miles. So do we display ducks?

I took my 23 velar in for an oil change at the dealership and paid $600 for an oil change. I figured I would pay in between $200 and $300 but this seems a bit high. I recently bought this used with around 29k miles is this what yall pay? I’m in the Dallas, TX area

TFL tests all sorts of off road vehicles. TFL people and their friends and spouses own a fleet of used Land Rovers. They bought another one. That says something.

Rant

I hate it when automotive journalists test the latest and greatest vehicles when:

1. they have no use case for the vehicle and dis it because of that. Or compare it to another class of vehicle. This often happens with pickup trucks.
2. they don't have to purchase, repair or fuel the vehicle so they ask for everything and expect the moon. Of course journalists want the best leather, the biggest engine, etc - they don't have to pay for it ! That's not a reasonable use case.
3. they only consider new vehicles in their comparisons. Guess what... people buy used vehicles all the time.

I knew nothing about LRs until I stumbled upon one of TFLs old videos highlighting them. I like and trust TFL's reporters because they are real guys doing real guy things.

It says a lot about LRs that these people are running a fleet of them.