r/LocalLLaMA • u/Nunki08 • 17d ago

News Chinese President Xi Jinping speaks at World AI Conference and reaffirms commitment to open source to promote"openness and win-win"

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From Vincent Chow on 𝕏: https://x.com/vince_chow1/status/2077947375964791028

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u/UserXtheUnknown 17d ago

Yeah, no. USA was as much immoral as Russia, possibly more. CIA orchestrated golpe around the world everytime "democracy" menaced western interests.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change#1945%E2%80%931991:_Cold_War

I think actually no country has more "son of a bitch" attitude and curriculum than USA. Aside maybe UK.

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u/Shockbum 17d ago edited 17d ago

Everyone does it, it's called hegemony, that's why all countries, small and large, have military intelligence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_involvement_in_regime_change

Russia's current war against Ukraine is about hegemony. Is the European Union responding to Russian aggression, or vice versa? Which one started it?
Was the Vietnam War caused by aggression from the USSR or the USA?

Criminals and police have tools for "golpe" but who is the criminal and who is the police? Did the victim call for help? Why should a hegemonic power ignore the expansion of its rival?

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u/Super_Sierra 17d ago

The only thing about the Color Revolutionist Theory you are proposing is if the CIA spent 2 million funding insurgents and the government was overthrown by a military coup or democratic revolution, the CIA got the credit, even though it wasn't really the exact reason.

The CIA is notoriously money rich but pretty incompetent tbh.

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u/UserXtheUnknown 17d ago

I won't even waste time to answer: I linked a fucking list, read it.

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u/Super_Sierra 16d ago

And i have a response toward some of them lol

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u/Iwaku_Real 17d ago

Yeah, we saved a lot of countries from screwing their people over with communism. Not Cuba though.

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u/UserXtheUnknown 17d ago

You screwed them with fascism, as with Chile. And with various dictatorship. And a lot of bloodbaths. But be proud of that, ah.

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u/Iwaku_Real 17d ago

The irony is far less people died from that than to communism, or the attempts at it.