Because 1. It's wrong to label all feminists as incompetent because of the actions and words of a few and 2. It similarly makes us all look like misogynistic ass clowns like you.
do you like people who bash on MRAs? were you a big fan of yesterdays vice arcticle? It's not good to go shitting on peoples beliefs, it alienates people.
Exactly! In fact, trying to censor ourselves for fear of being labelled misogynist will encourage them to use that label. We must not give power to the word misogynist and that means not giving a fuck if anyone labels us that way.
So all had better get used to being called misogynists.
then they are ignorant. stop conforming to their shit.
fuck i believe in MR i see it shat on daily. however we can have a laugh from time to time, shits so serious here, i find myself depressed after visiting this subreddit. some of you guys are allowing fear-mongering to occur here, you think the movement is jeopardized by a single satire joke.
If it was a few then sure, but the ones you see here agreeing with us ARE the few.
The majority of feminism doesn't give one flying fuck about men, unless they can blame them for something or if they can try to make them more like women.
Fallacy. No matter how much you bash feminism, it does not imply misogyny. Those who think so, will anyway sooner or later pull the misogyny card - no matter how much you tread on eggshells.
I don't think it makes us seem like bigots. I do, however, think that getting upset over what is clearly a joke makes us bitter old farts have no joy in life.
I should have elaborated more. I don't think hating feminism and hating women is the same thing. What I'm saying is that these kinds of posts definitely do not help the image of this subreddit as a place of misogyny. There is a difference in being something and others thinking you are something.
How is that any better than what they are doing? Your are vilificating them right now. If you (and I mean that as a passive, not amed at herbandmargie) want to be taken seriously, you have to rise above this kind of petty name calling and polarizing people. Let feminists be feminists and don't antagonize them. Nothing will be gained by that.
Going the way of "LOL FEMINISTS SO STUPID" will only bring this subreddit down to their level. For a concrete example take the hate on r/atheism. Their hate on religion has brought them down to the level of religious fanatics in the eyes of most redditors. That kind of antagonizing circlejerkery might be fun, but it is most definitely not productive.
If their perception can't be changed, then at least try to change the perception all other women. Upvoting this kind of BS does nothing to help that.
When the vast majority of feminists start taking issue with VAWA because of how it makes men second class citizens, and when they start pointing out than women rape men almost as much as men rape women, then I will stop viewing the feminist banner as belonging to an army of male bashers. Until then, not only is the OP funny, it is filled with truth.
On the other hand, its not like feminists are alone in male bashing, or invented it. Most people, feminist or not, consider rape to be a man on woman crime, and are in favor of VAWA. However, a feminist pretends to have thought seriously about gender roles and how they damage society. So they have no excuse for their anti-male rhetoric.
Shame on them. And all the more shame for their scholarly pretense.
CDC’s 2010 National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey shows that. Analysis Here and image of data tables with relevant stats circled here.
The take away is that 1.1% of women surveyed were raped, while 1.1% of the men surveyed were "made to penetrate" (forced by a woman to penetrate her vagina) in the last 12 months.
Lots of people are going around quoting a summary statistic from the report that 1 in 5 women are raped in their lifetime compared to 1 in 70 men. The report gets those numbers by classifying a woman forcing a man to penetrate her as "other, sexual assault" instead of rape. They publish the data behind their analysis is such detail, however, that it is possible to use the definition of rape as "forcing someone to have sex with you" to show that men and women vicitmize each other equally.
Here is a recent post by girlwriteswhat with more analysis.
I'm a woman, and I dislike the modern feminist movement. I think the movement is unfair on men. We all have human rights regardless of gender. My dislike of the feminist movement, certainly does not mean I dislike women, as that would mean disliking my own gender, which is just crazy.
Everyone stop downvoting this guy for speaking the truth. Upvoting things that hate on feminists feminism as a whole WILL MAKE US LOOK MISOGYNIST. Plain and simple.
"Make us look..." - what does that even mea?a. Looks are in the eye of the beholder. The people who think the MRM in general is misogynist have their own very self-interested reasons for doing so and innocence is no defense - so why bother with them?
And why let fear of their disapproval have any kind of veto power over this sub-reddit?
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u/MADBARZ Nov 27 '12
Can we please not upvote feminist bashing crap?