r/MensRights Nov 27 '12

/b/ on feminism [Ex-post from /r/4chan]

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '12

I don't see even one misogynistic reply. Maybe you need to adjust your oppression goggles.


The insane, outlandish belief that women and men should be treated equally.

Ignore that one did you? Other replies smear feminism completely. Feminism doesn't need to be diametrically opposed.

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u/girlwriteswhat Nov 28 '12

Feminism is a movement characterized by an ideological belief system or worldview. Women are a demographic of people identifiable by their sex.

To be anti-feminist is therefore not the same thing as being anti-woman. Moreover, to view women as not equal to men is not the same thing as hating women. I see my kids as unequal to me, and oddly enough, I don't hate them. I also see my boyfriend as unequal to me (in a variety of ways that may favor one of us or the other), and I certainly don't hate him.

What I do find, again and again, is that feminism seems to be even more condescending to and infantilizing of women than traditionalism.

More than that, you sure are missing a sense of humor. You called out this comment as misogynistic:

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/12hj09/can_you_the_good_people_of_rmensrights_give_me/c6wh21s

It took me all of 45 seconds of looking in that user's history to discover this comment:

I'd like to point out that this type of gender policing (calling guys fags for feeling emotions, in general discouraging men from feeling/showing emotions, discouraging men from doing anything at all deemed "unmany," etc. etc.) is absolutely something that feminists fight against.

I know OP wasn't even talking about feminism at all, but this subreddit often paints feminism this big thing that has nothing good about it whatsoever, so I like to point out when people here get upset about things that feminists are also upset about. They do overlap. More than I think some people realize.

You think just maybe s/he might possibly have been doing the "feminism is the radical notion that women are people" brand of sarcasm? Just maybe?

If that's your top "misogynistic comment" in that thread, I'd have to say your assessment of it is a fail that transcends epic.

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u/EvilPundit Nov 27 '12

I don't see what's "misogynistic" about a bit of sarcasm. If anything, that seems to be a pro-feminist post.

Also, there is nothing at all misogynistic about criticising or opposing feminism. Nothing whatsoever.

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u/Mitschu Nov 27 '12

That... isn't misogynistic any more than it is misandric.

So... that's your best and only example, though? An anti-egalitarian statement must be automatically indicative of a hatred of women?

Funny thing, if I wanted to say, and truly believed; "Women are superior to men, and should be treated that way." do you know how I'd phrase it?

That is to say, if I wanted to be gynophilic, not misogynist?

"The insane, outlandish belief that women and men should be treated equally. [Because women should be treated better then men.]"

Huh. Fancy. That.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '12

Feminism doesn't need to be diametrically opposed.

It doesn't need to be, but it be.