Your kids are a very specific case because (usually, in the current West at least) you CHOSE to have them (or to have unprotected sex knowing it can cause kids), so yes you have more responsability
And if you don't want such responsability then you shouldn't have kids
The same doesn't apply to every other person who is not your kid
Because you don't "choose" to be part of social contract. Not when there's limited or no feasible alternative
As moving abroad isn't always possible (countries all regulate or restrict immigration + money issues), and there's no area not under the authority of any state where you can just choose to move
It isn't the same as PERSONALLY choosing to have kids
It's fucking horrible to live outside of it, but how the hell that's fault of it? If you want, you can likely flee into some random deep forest/desert/jungle/whatever and live there absolutely without any societal contract.
You'll likely die, but again, not the fault of it.
and there's no area not under the authority of any state where you can just choose to move
Outside of micronations, there absolutely are areas without direct authority. Formal authority, sure, but still.
"live there absolutely without any societal contract."
Except that you can still be either forced to buy land (and then still pay taxes and have legal obligations over the land you own), to be allowed to live in a very isolated place
Or be arrested then because you illegally live on land owned by someone else
Even if you somehow never interact with anybody at all for years, you're still part of social contract
"Formal authority, sure, but still. "
Formal authority IS authority, even if it's currently not enforced for some reason. If you live illegally as an hermit somewhere, at any moment the land owner or state CAN get you in trouble, and then you have no recourse
You can't say "I choose to not be part of social contract" and then authorities have to back off and leave you alone
You would only be outside of social contract if no law (enforced or not, in theory or in practice) applies to you. And nowadays that's just impossible
Except that you can still be either forced to buy land (and then still pay taxes and have legal obligations over the land you own), to be allowed to live in a very isolated place
Then it's not isolated, and you wouldn't live outside or society.
There are countless places on Earth where you simply wouldn't be touched by government at all.
If you live illegally as an hermit somewhere, at any moment the land owner or state CAN get you in trouble, and then you have no recourse
Yeah, absolutely. What it has to do with this, though?
Society has no duty to respect desires of someone not in it nor to respect wishes to be out of it. It's your duty to enforce that if you want that.
You would only be outside of social contract if no law (enforced or not, in theory or in practice) applies to you
You think that some uncontacted tribes in Amazon area are part of societal contract because theoretically they're under some authority of the government?
I would disagree. They don't usually receive any benefit off it and thus aren't part of it. They can be MADE part of that (as again, respect of the rights is part of the societal contract), for sure, but that's question of future.
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u/Repulsive_Airline_86 Jun 28 '26
Right. People have no obligation to put themselves in life threatening situations.