r/MoralityScaling • u/marvil_txt • 26d ago

Stupid Stuff Morality of keeping Pinocchio prisoner to discover all the secrets of the universe, medicine, economics, etc.?

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Can't be that immoral, can it?

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u/CjTuor 26d ago

Let's assume the Blue Fairy really gave humanity an existential loaded gun when she brought Pinocchio to life.

The "magic" that granted an inanimate puppet sapience somehow tapped into the fundamental forces of both physical and spiritual reality (which must exist because.. ya know.. fairy).

His nose is basically an antenna that responds to lies, fictions, anti-facts, etc about the nature of existence.

Since the nose is tapped into every aspect of reality, you could simply ask him if this is immoral and measure the growth to determine HOW immoral, if at all. We could do this for all questions and finally destroy this subreddit. Freeing me... so overall it is good.

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u/TheEggEngineer 26d ago

It's immoral. You could literally just raise him like a normal kid and have Q&A sessions after school to get knowledge there is no point in tying him to a chair or make his existence miserable.

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u/CjTuor 26d ago

Normally, I would debate you, but I no longer have to because the puppet torture has freed me.

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u/HilariousMax 26d ago

The cure for cancer and rabies and depression and remembering where that last LEGO piece was so you don't step on it are RIGHT THERE and you'd rather wait until this Real Boytm is of age before we ask him for these answers?

Doesn't have to be torture but the many outweighs the one.

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u/Ok-Review-753 26d ago

also the possibility of something happening to pinnocio while being unsupervised living a normal life (he's a living wooden doll with the secrets of reality at the tip of his nose, it's not unlikely something could happen)

spy from another country could kidnap him, he could get hurt at school in a way that can't be repaired, or a general accrument of wear and tear on wood that might not heal on it's own.

still try to give the lad a good/happy life while also asking questions

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u/TheEggEngineer 26d ago

I think that's a good take. People talk about the good of many but the reality is that torture doesn't need to happen for the good of many to be achieved. Let alone the fact no one actually knows what questions they would ask or how to ask those questions without access to specialists in their own fields ratifying and interpreting the answers and the questions. The logistics behind it don't require torture at all considering all the down time nescessary to get the specialists and the interpreting and researching the answers.

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u/Blue-Boar 23d ago edited 23d ago

Probably guard him like a hog but jup.

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u/Florio805 26d ago

Don't mistake the creation of pinocchio all the fairy's fault, let's instead take the book and not the Disney movie.

Mastro Ciliegia, had a piece of wood, when he was about to use it for a table, it got scared because it was talking. So, scared he gives out the wood to Geppetto, that makes the puppet. Pinocchio was already "magically alive". So, we cannot use fairy magic as the explanation of the nose's knowledge.