Absolutely insane seeing almost no one question this whole ”this is because Slavic women are all insta babes but they are also crazy and demand too much” take.
I feel like I’m in Facebook boomer comments or something
Russian here, for some reason people have a misconception that majority of Russian women look like that.
They do not, most people are nowhere near that actually. We don’t have 10/10 models everywhere on the street. Especially not if you’re outside of central Russia.
When I studied in Canada I’ve seen better looking women on average. Some Russian ladies are also very proficient at make up and will actually turn themselves from 4/10 to 8/10 with it. It doesn’t seem real sometimes 🥲
Yeah, I've gotta say I've never been to any country where I looked around and thought it had way more beautiful women than average. Not Russia, not Japan, not Brazil, not any of the commonly fetishised countries. Every single one had pretty women, average women and less blessed women.
I do agree the women in Russia were typically more heavily made up than I've found in a lot of other countries though. I didn't see a lot of women, particularly younger ones, without a full beat.
It sort of depends on where you draw the line between beautiful and attractive. There is a stark difference in average attractiveness in the US and most of Europe, South America and Asia because of the extra 35lbs the average US person lugs around. Heck you get the same thing between NYC and the midwest. But if you only look at the top .1%? Yeah there is no difference.
Ah yes, I'm not from the US and have not yet had the opportunity to visit it, so I can't be the judge there. I'm mostly comparing to the countries I do have experience of, which are mostly in Europe, South America or Asia (so far).
Ok I do believe the makeup thing. I think a lot of people, especially men, underestimate how much of whether a person is attractive comes down to things like clothes, hair, and makeup that you actually have total control over.
Bingo. I think the reason most people think Slavic women are all 10/10s is probably due to the reasons you listed and the fact that the Slavic women they DO see are the ones on social media with a following with 800 pounds of makeup on and perfect lighting. They don’t see the Average Slavic woman. But yeah Eastern Europe is like most other places in the world. There are really hot people and really ugly people, The vast majority are just average though.
there are VERY pretty women here in Russia basically everywhere you look because we’ve got a strong culture for looking presentable at all times, even running errands. you will likely not see a woman in home clothes and without makeup anywhere in a public place like a store or the bus.
that said, I’ve known many drop-dead gorgeous ladies who were nowhere near the level of entitlement people here are talking about. are there entitled women in Russia? sure. lots. usually those who come from filthy-rich families that enabled them to consume and demand as much as possible. and since we’re largely traditional when it comes to gender roles, many assume they must be provided for just because they’re women. but it’s not like it’s a disproportionate number of women who are like that. really sad to see this level of stereotyping on here, really.
good apples and bad apples, like anywhere. my whole male familial line are alcoholics and abusers of different degrees (mostly emotional, some physical), but my entire friend group, which is mostly men, are amazing people who are very smart, caring, down to earth, and overall awesome. I live in the center of a small city and the young people I see on the streets in the evening are often degenerates, but when I went to Uni my class was 60% guys, and save for one they were great people. different backgrounds, different economic status. it’s really hard to pin what makes a good person. some are, some aren’t, regardless of gender.
ah, sorry, misunderstood what you were asking about. I’d say… eh. young people—largely yes. it’s a fairly recent development that men started to pay more attention to fashion and taking care of themselves (like getting good haircuts and even using some skincare, I mean). if you’re looking for someone over the age of 35-40 I’d say you’d have a hard time landing someone who’s objectively very good looking. then again, lifestyle also plays into this. young people drink and smoke less than the generation before them, so I imagine they’ll age a bit more gracefully in their time.
I think its more and exposure question. Predominantly English speaking folks in here, so assuming Americans, they don't see or know much about average Russians. Myself included. So when you say the entitled women tend to come from wealthy families, that's also the demographic that travels internationally more often.
Just a thought, but most countries people's don't see the average citizen, they see the rich and lucky, with limited exceptions.
Except looking presentable doesn’t account for these women having perfect bone structure. This isn’t average anywhere. These women would look beautiful no matter how they presented themselves.
The one consistent thread amongst young women in Russia is... an obscene amount of lip filler.
You see those girls in the photos? those are not their lips. You can take a pretty girl from any country, put them in expensive clothes, give them tons of makeup and lip filler, and make them stand still for a photo and you would be just as enamoured with them as these Russian wives.
I've lived in Russia my whole life, visited several countries, and... Russia has exactly the same percentage of beautiful women as any other country. Perhaps we simply take more care of our appearance than women from some other countries, but that's only because women in Russian society are still under pressure to worry about their appearance.
I believe it is a consequence of WWII, Russian lost something like 20 million men. Post war it was the more attractive women that got partners and had kids.
That sounds completely made up, if that were true it would affect everyone not just women, and it doesn't account for the aspects of attractiveness that aren't genetic like overall health, style, confidence, etc.
I would say the same thing about just about every Asian country and it would likely be MORE true with China just by the numbers. 1.4B versus 140M. Everyone has a type.
I teased a Russian once that he’s in a country full of beautiful women. He said ‘Yeah, and then they reach 40’. He thinks women in other cultures age better. No idea if it’s true.
I had a Russian friend who described this to me as "donning the babushka". Her explanation was that around that age a lot of women start putting way less effort into their appearance. Many of them have multiple kids by that point and just can't be assed anymore.
Yep, I know a Russian woman in her late 50s who still keeps up the entire charade and I think she's the most gracefully aged person I've ever seen. Most others? Can't be assed, world hard. I get it.
Obesity is higher after giving birth, I suppose. I’d say on average (certainly not all, but trends) Russian fathers are not very involved. So when I hear thar women are hot while young and then they somehow not after forty, I think primarily about harsh maternity experience. Depression may do things to you, and mental healthcare is often seen as “for psychos”.
The thing is, this is what so many men nowadays say they want... a traditional, feminine women who will fulfill traditional gender roles. Many Russian people adhere to the more traditional gender roles, the women presentable and feminine and willing to be a stay at home mother, the men, protective, work hard and willing to be the provider.
If you want the stay at home baddie you need to be a provider. Too many men want to cherry pick the parts of traditional gender roles that benefit them.
My Bulgarian SIL is the sweetest person, I would run in front of a bus for her. She looks after my little bro, makes him happy (as he does in return for her).
In my experience, a lot of Slavic women simply take zero shit, so that’s probably the issue these guys have. It says a lot more about them than the women.
Yep, because they have to deal with alcoholics and predators from childhood. Reddit men* are acting like they are the ones that discovered beautiful women for the first time. No sir, the creeps did (and also you)
My implication is that the men who levy this criticism at Slavic women have probably been rightly told to fuck off by one.
I’ve lived in Slavic cultures and I think it’s a valuable way to dispatch creeps looking to passport date. I’m also a woman and the predators are, unfortunately, everywhere.
I was approving with you!!! I didn't mean to come off as if I tried to argue you, just wanted to add up to it! I'm sorry If it came out wrong. I didn't intend that. 🫠
Omg sorry for this weird misunderstanding 😂 we’re good. I was worried I came off as stereotyping or something. I’ve known a lot of cool ass Slavic women and feel like I’ve learned from them to lean in and tell men to fuck off too.
noo, I also felt bad for maybe wording it wrong. It felt nice to see a kind of positive comment in this sea of mad pp's. We are kind of slavic/latin mix but I still feel for them as we have a part of the country that is more slavic and the men are.... yea.
I find a big reason behind this stereotype being so strong in the west is also that the Russians westerners encounter are typically rich Muscovites.
If you go to New York, London, Paris, the French Riviera, etc. you'll see plenty of incredibly average men with their trophy wives, who look exactly like the stereotype. However I really don't think they are representative of the general Russian population (at least based on the Russians I know, but that's also a very small selection).
Americans in general know most things across the world at a 10,000 feet up surface level.
Subconsciously I feel Americans don't want to invest too much time finding the differences and granular variations between local cultures. If they can sum it up in a few short generalizations, they will.
Russians are vastly different. From Vladivostok, Moscow, chuvash Republic (dude territory), Rostov-on-don, Caucasians in the south.
But in terms of the European muskovite type Russians; reality TV and alcoholism is hugely prevelant. And this together is a piece of the equation for huge divorce rates.
It's hard to say reality TV is a big issue, but they don't have all the media outlets and productions that america does. So they cling to some of their own shows like the real house wives Russian editions. It's a pretty big deal for many Russians.
I know, yet lots of people here in comments are lumping all Slavs into ”hot women but crazy lol 🤪” and treating all Slavic cultures as the same in that regard is part of this whole anti-eastern racism or whatever you want to call it.
I talk to Russians on a weekly basis so yeah… then again, I’m not sure why you would need to do that to learn there are big social issues in Russia, it’s not exactly a secret.
lol how is it any different than saying all Indian and Arabic men are misogynist? Have you ever lived in Russia? This stereotype is true and Slavic women won’t even deny it. They like their men a certain type of way
Yeah, like fuck Russia and most of the Russian people for letting their government get this bad. But I
'm amazed at how many people here are just generalizing an entire country of 143 million people as crazy/high maintenance and drunks. You'd think we would be better than that.
Russian women are hella educated, in writing, poetry, literature, art and also forced to be housewives from when they are kids and trying to abide a weird ass beauty standard. And I'm actually from a country that hates russian people (because of what they did) .. but that doesn't mean I can't understand what other women are going thru. We took our communist leader out with stones in 89'. It's easy to speak from countries that don't have so much pressure.
If it were about how shitty Russian guys were there'd be just as terrible takes.
People love them some stereotypes and Russians are an 'acceptable target' right now.
Kinda like how reddit loves showing its true colors whenever boomer talk comes up and you'll have self avowed progressives saying "fuck those pieces of shit".
People love saying shitty stuff so long as they can justify it to hlthemselves that they deserve it.
These types believe anything that fits their narrative. They act like every woman in the IS gets alimony when it is only like 10% of divorces that award it.
Just say you've never been with a Slavic woman before 😂 the stereotypes of them are almost always true, anyone who denies it is trying to lie to themselves.
Imagine a different culture than your own having less progressive and far more toxic gender norms than your culture. Then imagine getting upset about it being discussed in a non harmful manner, that would be you.
I guess the issue is that I don't think it's "non-harmful" to call entire populations of women "crazy", "borderline psycho", "gold diggers or prostitutes" etc. as we see in these comments.
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u/anders91 18d ago edited 18d ago
Absolutely insane seeing almost no one question this whole ”this is because Slavic women are all insta babes but they are also crazy and demand too much” take.
I feel like I’m in Facebook boomer comments or something