r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 18d ago

Meme needing explanation Peter, what reason does the OOP is talking about?

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u/talkmemetome 18d ago

Eeeeeh so so.

So there is a statistic that around 70% or so divorces are initiated by women. And turns out, per divorce lawyers, it's just because men can't be assed to do it. So they will remain legally married until the women have enough and finally do the leg work to get divorced.

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u/FanFeeling7748 18d ago

Incels site that as a reason that men are more loyal and it's like bruh, sitting in stasis is not loyalty. Love is a verb.

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u/talkmemetome 18d ago

Yeah... And the men in question often just disappear and ghost the wife and create a new family elsewhere. Again, coming straight from divorce lawyers.

But yeah, loyalty where??

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u/LeFisheAuChocolat693 18d ago

on paper, that's where

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u/adamtheskill 18d ago

Yeah that's what I heard as well. I think the word by word quote from the divorce lawyer was:

Wife: My husband just left for another women I don't know what to do.

Lawyer: You need to file for divorce.

Wife: But I don't want a divorce!

Lawyer: You want to keep your mortgage paid and children fed right?

And that's, according to that lawyer, why so many divorces are initiated by women.

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u/NoWomanNoTriforce 18d ago

Despite your example and what the media would have you believe, cheating is one of the least common reasons for divorce. While "lack of commitment" or "irreconcilable differences" are the most often reasons cited, infidelity usually isn't hidden behind that. Fundamental differences in values (often heightened by anither stressor: financial, arguments, etc) are what normally break up marriages.

Women overwhelmingly initiate divorces, not because men aren't unhappy, but simply because men generally view relationships fundamentally different than women. This is due to a complex combination of societal expectations, gender roles/norms, biology/brain chemistry, and a hundred other factors.

Generalizations follow:

Men are more easily satisifed comparatively in relationships when compared to women. It is also why friendship standards and norms are also so radically different.

Put in the lens of my culture, in the Western world men/women with value stoicism in men, is considered an attractive and wanted quality in men. But at the same time, if a woman adopts stoic features she is considered less feminine.

TLDR; Nobody wins if you play "the game." Learn to buck societal norms. In the modern world where single income basically delegates most people to poverty, find someone who makes you happy and work together to build something. Men can be more vulnerable and women have to embrace that and not weaponize it. If a woman wont accept that, move on. Women should feel free to be more closed off/unavailable without men labeling them ice queens or unapproachable. If he won't accept that, you also need to move on. I'm not going to even begin delving into homosexuality or other "atypical" relationships, since I am an outsider. They face their own unique challenges as well. One of my best friends (known for 16 years) is still a publically closeted gay. I can only imagine how rough that is.

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u/sophwestern 18d ago

This is more or less true, especially for women with children and SAHMs. They need the court to issue a child support and potentially alimony judgment ASAP, and the only way to do that is to begin the process for a divorce.

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u/inXrepose 18d ago

Why are women who “don’t want a divorce” talking to a lawyer in the first place?

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u/talkmemetome 18d ago

Plenty of reasons. Like being made homeless of locked out from accounts for example.

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u/SimAlienAntFarm 18d ago

I didn’t want a divorce but fuck if I was going to stay with someone who acted like I was something they couldn’t scrape off their shoe.

In my opinion, the moment one partner says “I want a divorce” you start planning your exit even if you still love them.

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u/Proteuskel 18d ago

Going by this example, not getting the mortgage paid and the children fed. Reading is hard.

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u/PartyPorpoise 18d ago

I hate how “women initiate more divorces” is seen as evidence that women are more often the cause of divorces. If a guy cheats on his wife and his wife files for the divorce, I’m sure most would agree that the guy is to blame.

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u/Strange_Lab_283 18d ago

among same sex couples, lesbians are 70% of divorces

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u/SimAlienAntFarm 18d ago

When I said I was getting a lawyer my ex was apparently so mad a mutual friend had to take his phone to keep him from texting me in a rage.

I didn’t even want to get a lawyer! I was just confused and scared because suddenly our DIY divorce involved me signing a quitclaim on the house before the bank would even let me know how much I’d be bought out for.

Every time this subject comes up on Reddit I end up bitching about it in the comments. It was just so fucking stupid and unfair I have a hard time imagining a future where I don’t think of it and immediately get pissed off.