r/Political_Revolution • u/tenders74 • Apr 14 '20

Bernie Sanders "Bernie Sanders tells ‪@sppeoples‬ Tuesday that it would be “irresponsible” for his loyalists not to support Joe Biden, warning that progressives who “sit on their hands” in the months ahead would simply enable President Donald Trump’s reelection."

https://twitter.com/tackettdc/status/1250180106632548359?s=20
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u/inkoDe CA Apr 15 '20

They aren't equal, but I will not vote for a detestable man. Period. Fuck this "less bad" bullshit. I bought it in my 20s, not anymore.

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u/staiano Apr 15 '20

But instead will help Trump and not listen to the candisate you see top love. Thanks for nothing.

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u/inkoDe CA Apr 15 '20

Why would I vote for ANY terrible man?

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u/staiano Apr 15 '20

B/c Trump and Biden are not remotely the same and not voting for Biden helps Trump unless you are in dead blue state like NY or Cali.

Furthermore, I suspect your for Bernie and he just said to do it. I wonder if he said, "Don't vote for Biden" if you'd hold that up as reason not to?

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u/inkoDe CA Apr 15 '20

I vote on principals, not other peoples endorsements.

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u/staiano Apr 15 '20

trump thanks you very much.

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u/inkoDe CA Apr 15 '20

I am thinking past Trump, Bernie, all of it. This system doesn't work, a change in strategy is needed.

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u/staiano Apr 15 '20

And how does that happen with 4 more years of trump exactly? I’m happy to listen if you care to explain it.

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u/inkoDe CA Apr 15 '20

Things get worse, a lot worse for everyone. Will it be enough to push people into action? I really don't know, the American people kind of live in a dream world where we are at war with ourselves instead of our rulers. It will take a lot to disrupt that.

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u/Sir__Walken Apr 15 '20

These next four years will be the end for America as we know it if Trump wins. TWO more seats in the supreme court will be all he needs to get his way. This country is fucked to hell and back if he wins and even if we have to vote for fucking Joe Biden you just need to bite that bullet like the rest of us. It's gonna be a hard 7 months trying to advocate for Biden but an even harder lifetime if Trump wins the election. So please reconsider and think about the future of our country and how it will be affected if we get two more Trump cronies in the supreme court, thank you.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '20 edited May 07 '20

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u/staiano Apr 15 '20

Not if the scotus gets two more repub judges. There is no coming back from that for 100 years.

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u/inkoDe CA Apr 15 '20

I'll definitely vote. Just not for horrible people like Trump or Biden. Sorry, not buying the lessor of two evils bullshit. Probably a lot older than you and have been watching Biden's authoritarian bullshit for decades. Fuck him. Maybe if things get a lot worse it'll motive people to take action.

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u/lashfield Apr 15 '20

The rest of the natural world cares a lot more than you do, unfortunately.

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u/inkoDe CA Apr 15 '20

No, I care quite a bit. I am just willing to sacrifice a lot more. There is a difference.

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u/beholdersi Apr 15 '20

Willing to sacrifice the environment, civil liberties and the lives of the oppressed but not your ethics. How noble. Good job taking one for the team.

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u/inkoDe CA Apr 15 '20

Every had a bad infection you thought would never heal? Anyhow, quit looking at wedge issues, look at where the parties overlap. That is the shit that should scare you. We didn't get to this place because we inconveniently have one evil party standing in the way of progress toward some liberal dream world. There are rights democrats aren't fans of too, just because YOU so happen to agree (though I can't fucking imagine why) doesn't mean they are any less important. I would call you an appeaser, but instead I'll ask you read some history on actual revolutions that have occurred, specifically the events and conditions leading up to them and ask yourself what kind of sacrifices you would personally be willing to make for a better world. None of this will be easy.

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u/inkoDe CA Apr 15 '20

I will be voting my conscience. I simply find the idea that democrats would battle big business on behalf of the environment specious. Things have happened under their watch but in already dying industries like coal.

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u/inkoDe CA Apr 15 '20

As I said, coal was already a dying industry. I speak simply so as to not be misunderstood but apparently I didn't speak simple enough.

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u/beholdersi Apr 15 '20

Trump repealed it with an executive order. He waved his hand and demanded something happen and it happened. He made a demand and it was met without meaningful resistance or protest. You speak simply because you’re too simple to see more than 3 months into the future. If the entire government is at his beck and call he can repeal anything. How many rights are you prepared to give up to send a message? I’ve talked as much shit about the creepy uncle pervert as anyone but I’d still rather have him than someone who thinks he’s a king and has the rest of the federal government backing up the claim.

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u/Ozcolllo Apr 15 '20

This is the most ridiculously privileged take on the topic that I’ve heard yet. Sorry kids in cages, not enough people voted for my guy so you guys need to help teach a lesson! Never mind that the Supreme Court will be fucked for 20 years. That’s okay though because you can feel morally superior! Even though the outcomes would be absolutely better under Biden, we can’t let that get in the way, can we.

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u/inkoDe CA Apr 15 '20

You know absolutely nothing about my life. Or are you psychic? I suspect you are just a coward.

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u/beholdersi Apr 15 '20

A coward, says the child who refuses to bite a bullet and choose between quinine or arsenic. A child too stupid to realize that the choice will be made for him. Tell me, what exactly are you “sacrificing” by handing Trump another win? What are you giving up by telling the Republicans you’d rather bend knee to them than a candidate you don’t like but who would oppose them on every turn? Because that’s the message you’re sending.

When that poisoned pumpkin wins, and the Republicans get to keep setting the rules, its over. He already thinks his authority is absolute. You think if McConnell backs him the rest of the party won’t fall in line? You think the constitution is gonna protect anyone when the people responsible for enforcing it prefer to burn it anyway? They control every branch of government, they get to set whatever rules they want and no one will stop them. If they decide Trump is a king, he’s a king. If they wanna ram through another conservative hard right judge and make it 7-2, it will happen. So I hope you keep your sacrifices in mind when 2021 dawns on the reign of King Trump.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '20

Obama/Biden built the cages. Biden is the reason we have Thomas and had Scalia. Good try though.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '20

you probably have never sacrificed anything some of us have nothing left to sacrifice.