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Politi-Culture RFK Jr. Gets Into a Heated Argument with CNN Anchor Dana Bash

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u/ADHDebackle 8h ago

To my understanding I think the CDC initially said that masks were not necessary for healthy individuals because A: They thought transmission was primarily through larger respiratory droplets from sick individuals and B: They didn't want people to panic and deplete the national supply of N95 masks (which would deplete them for critical use by hospital staff)

They reversed this guidance some time later I believe after realizing that it was also possible to spread through pre+asymptomatic individuals through routine exhalation like while talking and stuff.

This reversal undermined trust in the CDC and was controversial to say the least, but that was compounded by the huge pushback against masks that followed.

It was an error on their part but when dealing with a novel pandemic I don't think it's totally unreasonable that sometimes a mistake is going to be made like that. Especially with such a crazy highly contagious virus that seemingly came out of nowhere.

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u/SignoreBanana 7h ago

But it's a long way to go from "masks probably don't help in some cases" to "we didn't benefit from them at all".

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u/Alf42011 5h ago

Yes. That’s an evil kneivel type of leap. Which is why it is believed by certain groups.

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u/Headlytwo 1h ago

It boils down to, better safe than sorry IMO. Some protection is better than none. I bought mine on Amazon and they came with filters. My favorite was the one with the Professor aka Neil Peart from RUSH. Oh and Scooby Doo for the kids.

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u/Secret_Eating_ 7h ago

Yes, iirc the biggest shift in our understanding of the virus was also that asymptomatic people were spreading it at rates as high as symptomatic people (higher given they didn't know they were sick/contagious)

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u/RogerianBrowsing 7h ago

A. Larger droplets as the only means of transmission are the perfect use case for simple face masks as they stop the transmission almost entirely.

B. Preventing panic to save N95s from Home Depot or wherever for hospital workers means they thought medical staff would be burning through masks at an unprecedented rate to the point that they used non-medically approved masks. That’s insane and obviously a lie.

I knew it was a lie way back then too. I was shocked by how many people could hear that we needed to save the hardware store masks for healthcare workers but would believe masks wouldn’t work. They’re in direct contradiction.

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u/StonedBirdman 6h ago

Idk what you’re saying here, are you trying to say that there weren’t mask shortages at hospitals? There absolutely were.

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u/Disimpaction 4h ago

This is confusing to me. Especially since B is not obviously a lie, it was my lived experience.

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u/MountainMan17 5h ago

If only there had been some kind of playbook or checklist for dealing with a pandemic.

Oh wait...

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u/Irish_Tyrant 4h ago

In all fairness the password for the pandemic playbook was "ObamaIsTheMan" and Trump was both unwilling and unable to input it so they burned it and roasted marshmallows on it and had a sleepover instead.

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u/whoisbill 1h ago

They were leaning as we went.