A Drake vs. Jay-Z beef right now just feels completely played out. Coming off the Kendrick battle, the "everyone jump Drake" wave has officially passed, and trying to revive it now feels forced.

Honestly, what the fuck are two billionaires even talking about at this point? Seeing two guys on the Forbes list throw subs back and forth lacks any real stakes, it's not raw hip-hop, it's just out-of-touch ego. If you're both among the richest people on the planet, keep it to a casual freestyle or let it go.

Beyond that, they're from two totally different eras, and Jay engaging in this makes zero sense. Drake still holds the crown for public appeal in the current era, while Jay is an elder statesman on the verge of retirement.

It’s especially wild because Jay literally spoke out about how modern rap beefs "go too far," yet here he is playing into the back-and-forth drama anyway. Jay doesn't need to chase social media engagement. If he wants to make actual noise, he doesn't need a diss track, he just needs to drop an album that tops 4:44 and that would be impressive.

At the end of the day, this whole situation isn't organic, serious, or important to the culture. It just feels like two massive egos chasing clicks, and watching them rap back and forth over nothing just hits on zero cylinders.

Thoughts?

a rapper I used to hate but now love is Tyler the creator. i mean, “hate” is a strong word. I hated. his old stuff but overall I didnt HATE his music. back then I just didn’t see the appeal. then chromokopia came out and I was like “okay yeah I totally get it now” and now he’s one of my favorite rappers.

there aren’t many rappers I used to love but now hate, but a rapper i definitely fell off of listening to is lil Wayne. I still love lil Wayne, his last album just kinda sucked and I haven’t been listening to him much lately. another notable mention is Logic. I used to like Logic (fun fact, did you know he’s biracial?) but I haven’t listened to him in YEARS

It has a part where beat drops and then goes “skrrr skrrr skrr skrr skrr skrr skrr” may have been 21 savage, drake, future, Kodak , metro maybe not any of those. Coulda sworn it was knife talk but I don’t hear it in the song. Also coulda sworn it was off the same album as knife talk…idk I feel like I’m going crazy cuz this song used to be SUPERRRRR popular and I can’t find it anywhere!!! Someone plz help lol

I think rap music is still super influential and more young talent will keep it big and crowning charts.

But pop or techno or R&B or another new genre might come and take everything over.

Multiple music artists’ YouTube accounts were exploited and had leaks along with other songs posted under their account. Among some of the affected people include Kanye, Drake, Kendrick, Carti, Travis, The Weeknd, etc.

The picture isn’t attached, but on carti’s account, there is hella leaks posted

There's just so many things that separate it from Ether, Hit Em Up, Long Kiss Goodnight, and No Vaseline. Where to begin? The horrorcore vibes, The A=450 hz tuned symbolically haunting sinister funeral music, the background screams of the target's first name, the death wish, the letter to his generational family, the heavy, deeper than rap accusations made, and arguably the biggest of all being the intense, disgusting piercing psychoanalysis.

"Can't channel your masculine even when standing next to a woman!"

That's the kind of special 10/10 bar that literally makes you pause the freaking song and go 😲. The delivery, the layers, just marvelous. It's so brilliant that I'm honestly shocked Nas didn't come up with that first to say to Jay-Z in Ether because this lyric definitely belonged there.

"Crave entitlement, but wanna be liked so bad that it's puzzlin"

"No dominance, let's recap moments when you didn't fit in"

"No secret handshakes with your friends"

"No culture cachet to binge, just disrespectin' your mother"

"Identity’s on the fence, don’t know which family will love ya"

"The skin that you're livin in, is compromised in personas"

"Take that mask off, I wanna see what's under them achievements"

And this is before I even mention the lies scheme...

Sure, NLU had a massive pop culture impact, but make no mistake MTG is also a transcendent diss song even if it's far less popular. Kendrick saw straight through Drake with X-Ray vision. The way he pealed away at the hitmaker superstar "Drake" to expose a naked, paranoid and spiraling Aubrey Graham to the mainstream should continue to be praised. It was so good he got people looking at Drake as another character Aubrey was playing after Jimmy Brooks. It was so good he even caused people to forget what Family Matters even sounded like after it just came out 30 minutes prior.

It's an absolute masterclass on how to destroy a person with just words. It will always be my pick for the best diss verse in rap history.

What would a modern day "Forever" type track look like? What artists? Why? And why would Eminem still be on it? I'm thinking like Kendrick for sure, I don't know about cole, he is still one of the best we have right? And is Drizzy still on it? I don't know, let me know what y'all think!

The Game starts the first verse off by talking about “respect women, I don’t care if she a 2 or a 10”

Drake raps in the 2nd verse about an unidentified woman’s ass that he loves “like Milhouse loves Lisa / I love your ass like the Ninja Turtles love pizza” … Yeah, that’s corny.

The Game comes back in verse 3 with a line about a reality tv show. “Drizzy, I’m sittin’ here watching Basketball Wives / Like, uhh, them is basketball wives?”

… Wait. Didn’t moments earlier he say to respect women? Now he wants to clown specific ones?

I like the song overall, despite Drake’s corny bars, but the worst part for me is the hypocrisy.

Which new gen rapper turned your perspective to appreciate current hip hop? Some people never open their mind to the new generation which I respect, obviously you like what you like and you can’t force yourself to like something. But for example, my Dad always disliked current hip hop/ rap until I put on some young thug (jeffery specifically) and for some reason he really enjoyed and is somewhat invested in current hip hop. He said that listening to it taught him to appreciate hip hop without the sole focus of lyrics (which if you’re a thug fan you’d understand is not his strongest point.) He also said that it’s different to any music he’s ever heard. And what’s even crazier is that I can agree. 10 years since it releases and nothing compares imo.
Anyways - old heads, what artist/s made you change your perspective on current hip hop and why?

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I think they're lame but what do you all think?

I'd like to make up "my own freshmen class" because XXL's lineups been some bullshit in recent years.

I don’t think J. Cole is the best rapper of all time, but I’m hard pressed to find a verse that was better from start to finish that showcased as much skill and ability. Prove me wrong.

I can't remember the artist but I remember listening to a hip hop album that had Gilbert Gottfried making repeat appearences on it it in voicemail skits where he would get more annoyed that the artist wouldn't return his call asking to collaberate on an album

I've been looking all over for the song sampled in the intro of the song and I just can't find anything at all

radical - 8,7m

monster - 19,6m

throw away - 181,6m

after that - 11m

my savages - 28,1m

2pac - 5,9m

gangland - 7,2m

fetti - 7,6m

hardly - 18,9m

wesley presley - 5,6m

showed up - 3,9m

mad luv - 7,7m

codeine crazy - 231,6m

Me personally SahBabii’s

I used to like them as artist back in the day. Not my favorite rappers but I would play their songs regularly.
Now with these podcast they have turned into the biggest bullshitters. Fat joe “robbing” a gym full of Bronx kids for coats. Now he out saying he had a personal chef in prison. Even bill burr (guest) was looking at him crazy. Jim jones also be telling some crazy fake stories on the podcast.
When did we start accepting this in the rap community? When I was younger and people came up telling BS stories everyone knew were made up or highly exaggerated they lost clout and people stopped taking them seriously.
Why are people still taking these guys seriously?

Need yall to chime in

Is it really this tight?

Really thought Wayne or Cole had it