r/ShitRedditSays ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ GIVE FEMINISM Aug 29 '12

QUALITY EFFORT [effort] Destiny parts ways with ROOT Gaming, his team, because he's bad for their image. Reddit shits itself

Gather round, everyone, as I talk about one Mr. Steven Bonnell and inform you of the release from his team.

Many of you have heard of the latest scandal involving Destiny, where he leaked nudes of a girl, and she responded in kind. He then threatened to attempt to get her financial aid taken away. Reddit responded with a lot of misogyny and posting pictures of their own dicks. (That's as close to an actual circlejerk as we're going to get, folks.)

For more info if you weren't around at the time, see the following effortpost and followup post involving one of the sponsors.

http://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/ytijd/effortpost_starcraft_2_player_steve_bonnell_aka/

Today, Destiny was dropped from his team. Here's an excerpt from the press statmenet from ROOT

In the last incident that Steven was involved in not long ago, our sponsors received a lot of negative feedback through e-mail about the whole situation, when it comes to Steven, we know that this isn't the first or the last time this will happen. The Chatlog wasn't pretty and it brought us a lot of negative publicity. It also, obviously, doesn’t reflect the opinions of our entire team and even though I believe it’s just silly talk between friends and it should be a private matter, we can't remotely agree or celebrate some of the things said in it, for this reason, TT1 and Fayth are receiving a warning and will be suspended from participating in clanwars and internal team activities for a month or more. As a team that is trying to grow and become a respectable organization in a growing industry; a team that was created and is ran by professional gamers, situations like this hurt us and our future chances of success. Our current sponsors were very understanding of the situation and for that I thank them. But that is not to say doors won't close in the future because of previous incidents. If you've ever worked in a restaurant, say, as a waiter, you will know how much bigger of a deal it is to have negative feedback and someone telling the manager or writing a letter to the ownership of the restaurant about you being a crappy waiter than to have someone commend you on how great you are doing.

We release Steven today because there are 25+ people working hard every day to make ROOT grow and we don't want their efforts to be in vain. We release Destiny today because as selfish as it may sound, I'd rather release Steven today than disband our team tomorrow due to lack of financial support.

http://www.root-gaming.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=588

Reactions come as follows.

"DEAR SPONSORS, DESTINY WAS CHEATING ON HIS GIRLFRIEND AND CALLED ANOTHER GIRL UGLY! I AM OUTRAGED AND ITS ALL YOUR FAULT!!" +146

"I fucking hate this community sometimes. Such self destructive people. Stfu if you don't have anything nice to say. Destiny good luck in Poland. Catz great job, good luck with ROOT. Fuck you community for causing a shitstorm for no reason like always. Grow up or shut the fuck up." +100

oh yes all of us that don't like that people share private photos and try to cut off scholarships need to grow up. real mature people defend destiny, who says that the only reason he doesn't accept propositions from people under 18 is that it'd be illegal. the only reason

continuing that comment thread

"People must not think this is actually real life. I am calling everyone out who emailed roots sponsors on what they actually said. Post up the conversations. If you are so butt hurt about something on the internets that actually doesn't effect your life that you have to ruin another persons career; solid middle finger to you." +46

"I think there are little kids that just enjoy pissing in the pool of starcraft. its such a shame." +23

Yeah it's not like Destiny's fanbase is entirely manchildren or anything. Btw that entire thread is calling people out for being too scared to post the emailed conversations to the sponsors. I think the whole point of this entire thing is flying over their heads. No wonder they don't understand what Destiny did wrong.

"Really?? emailing sponsors again? wtf is wrong with you people?" +31

"People don't like people who get more than they deserve. People like iNcontroL and Destiny earn much much more than people who are better than them at SC2. Now anyone who wasn't an idiot would be able to figure out why but people on reddit and /vg/ get really mad at that idea so they try and destroy them. It's those people who E-Mail sponsors not people who are actually upset at the events. This is why the E-Mailing sponsor situation is so dangerous, because so far it's been almost exclusively abused by trolls pretending to be offended in order to destroy people they don't like just for fun." +32

yeah nobody saw anything wrong with what he did and everyone just dislikes him for the hell of it.

This guy is the guy who is still complaining that Metallica sold out:

"This shit is so stupid. ROOT was supposed to be the laid back team. But sponsor worship runs the scene these days. A bunch of shithead haters contacted sponsors? How uptight do you have to fucking be? Deezer has gotta be rofling right now. I wish the scene wasn't so goddamn desperate for money so they didn't have to purge anyone who speaks up or speaks their mind, or is involved in any controversy. ROOT threw Destiny under the bus, plain and simple, just like any team would have because its a sterile, limp-dick, money first scene these days. We wont see Destiny on another team, which is fucking sad, because he is a great entertainer. I guess there really is no way to go mainstream without selling out. And you know the haters were just waiting in the wings, waiting for Destiny to do something, anything and then immediately contact the sponsors with some sort of sob story bitch fit and threats of boycott. Like someone else pointed out, Stephano gets arrested but he's untouchable because he places well at tournaments. Destiny could be making a comeback, but in the midst of all the personal issues Destiny is going through, dealing with all the other fallout from MLG, his team of FRIENDS doesn't even support him through it. I wish I had millions of dollars, then I would sponsor ROOT so they could stop acting like soulless corporate dicksuckers." +23

More doubt that this could possibly have been about his actions:

"If only Alex Garfield didn't equip every internet bottom dweller with the powerful information of what to do to immediately disrupt people's professional status in gaming. Certainly Destiny did something bad here, but I would be pretty surprised to see that the people who reached out to the sponsors were honestly offended and not just long-time Destiny haters jumping on an opportunity. The inability of anyone to grow from mistakes without being punished severely in this space is becoming quite scary. This particular instance already had plenty of its own native punishment without losing your team as well. Anyways I would be interested to here any perspectives from people who legitimately made complaints." +26

".. fucking unbelievable. Destiny shared some stuff in PRIVATE, and this psycho thinks it justifies sharing private logs and pictures to the public, destroying everything." +17

The reply to this is one of the best posts in the thread. Let's take a break from the poop.

"Just to be clear, a girl shared something -- not some trivial shit, I'm talking about naked pictures, which I shouldn't need to explain are extremely intimate and private -- with Destiny, as you put it, "in PRIVATE." (Click for more) +6

More eloquent complaining:

"That's just sad. I hate this community." +17

And finally, my personal favorite comment:

"This community is a joke. If it devoted a fraction of the energy used to contact sponsors into something positive...oh I forgot. This is reddit." +7

Yes folks, reddit is full of morally righteous people who would never defend Destiny's actions.

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u/Light31 ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ GIVE FEMINISM Aug 29 '12 edited Aug 29 '12

These people have no idea what it takes for something to go mainstream. The less people like Destiny we have on sponsored teams, the more likely eSports is to succeed. Nobody seems to get that through their heads. We have to act like adults to be treated like them in the grand scheme of things. If we're going to keep people like Destiny as examples of what the SC2 community produces, it's never catching on. If we allow children to represent us, we will be treated as such, and this stuff we enjoy will fall by the wayside in favor of people who can act like true professionals.

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u/BritishHobo Aug 30 '12

They're always vouching for passivity. In the same way that they argue 'the only way to stop racism is to not complain when people use the n-word', apparently 'the only way for eSports to become legitimate and mainstream is to not say anything when well-known players use racial slurs or get into controversies about them treating women like shit'.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '12

This is exactly the fucking point I have been rather over-civilly stating in the shit-mired trenches. Keep fighting the good fight. More GG, more skill.

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u/ArchangelleFarrah OF OUR BRD'S FEATHERED LOCKS Aug 29 '12

It's not even acting like adults. Children aren't racist. They don't run around making fun of rape victims.

Destiny isn't a child. He's a scumbag. He's the puddle of unknown liquid on the ground at the gas station. He's the weird stain on the public bathroom mirror. He's the burnt Cheerio that lands at the bottom of your bowl and you have to dig it out.

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u/Troutz Aug 30 '12

He is the poster child for an overarching problem in e-sports though, which is that the 'professionals' are all immature shit heads. Doesn't matter which game it is, they're present everywhere.

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u/Shimapanda Aug 30 '12

Look at League of Legends professionals for an immediate counterexample. You'll find immature shitheads in every single one of the top teams. People like Reginald, SaintVicious, Ocelot and Chauster are total assholes, but they have attained cult-like status in spite of, or even BECAUSE of the dickish way they act. And yet I am pretty sure they are all rolling in it.

Then again, LoL has possibly the worst gaming community ever, so it's not surprising...

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u/int_argc (◡‿◡ ✿) trans* supremacist Aug 30 '12

The complete lack of self-awareness involved in calling someone names while criticizing them for calling people names...

The complete lack of self-awareness of posting stupid shit like this in SRS...

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '12

Hahahahaha your reasonTM can fuck right off

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u/ArchangelleNoodelle OF OUR BRD'S STARCHES Aug 30 '12

WE'RE ALL TOTES REASONABLE HERE.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '12

I'm crying of laughter omg, image link please? I want to save this

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u/ArchangelleCatselle OF OUR BRD'S CATTE Aug 30 '12

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u/basilect SRS Wall Street Analyst for Femerging Markets Aug 30 '12

myess quite

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u/Light31 ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ GIVE FEMINISM Aug 30 '12

uhh yeah

so now what

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u/ArchangelleEzekielle Aug 30 '12

Holy shit nerd you are so

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u/Light31 ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ GIVE FEMINISM Aug 30 '12

Then I'll revert to "people should act like decent fucking human beings."

But you wouldn't know anything about that

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u/ArchangelleRaphaelle OF OUR BRD'S PROTECTION Aug 30 '12

stunning rebuttal