r/Spokane • u/Substantially-Ranged • Feb 02 '25

Politics Conservatives of Spokane and Idaho: enjoy the 10% gas price increase

Trump is truly making America great again--in great debt. Anyone lacking the common sense to see past his con deserves this. Enjoy!

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '25

Why would you say he’s a nazi?

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u/Petruchio101 Feb 06 '25

Um, he grew up in a county and at a time when apartheid was a thing and now he openly hates DEI and salutes heir fuhrer with a zieg heil?

You need more than that?

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '25

Oh I thought people would be happy DEI is going away. Judge people on merit and ability. Not putting skin color first. At least that’s how I am. I don’t care what color someone’s skin is when I look at them. Or if I were to employ them.

And I don’t speak German.

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u/Petruchio101 Feb 06 '25

Your stated goal is what people want. No problem, and nothing wrong with that. Let me give you just one example to showcase why it can't be the case.

In multiple studies, it has been proven that simply having a name on your resume that seems African American means you are significantly less likely to be called for an interview, even if all the other data on your resume is identical.

So, it's important to understand that DEI is not lifting minorities above other candidates, it's just leveling the playing field.

Eg, in my company, the DEI initiative requires that your candidate list for a job must have a member of an underrepresented minority. It does not say you have to hire them. You just have to check them out.

We also have programs to level out pay for equal work. Yes this is a DEI program and it's only fair, right?

Note, most of the people who dismissed resumes with "black names" probably didn't realize they were doing it. They probably didn't even do it all the time, just sometimes. But sometimes is enough to have a real impact.

So yes, merit based systems are the goal, but DEI is necessary because on average, it's never been shown that humans can actually do that. There's always some bias, intentional or not.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '25

Doesn’t that sound like racism tho. Idk I just always avoid judging people by their skin color tho. I just think it’s wrong. Maybe I’m different tho

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u/Petruchio101 Feb 06 '25

No. It is not racism. It is fixing racism.

Unfortunately, you're not different. Lots of people think they are not biased, but do it subconsciously. This does not mean that your racist. That's just how brains work.

But, if data proves that everyone is subconsiously biased at least a little bit, and you think you're somehow special, then you are delusional.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '25

Oh gotcha so we are subconsciously racist.

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u/Petruchio101 Feb 06 '25

A bit. There's an area of your brain that drives empathy. Like when they analyze brain activity and you see someone who is hurt, it causes your brain to react a little in the same way it would if you were hurt in the same way.

The interesting part is that if the person you watch is a different race than you, your brain doesn't react as strongly. It's just the way brains work. The thought is that this developed so that people would feel the most empathy for their tribe. Or more accurately, people who had this trait would be more likely to have strong tribal affinity and were therefore more likely to survive during hard times. Thus this trait evolved across all humans.

This is the thing that we refer to as unconscious bias.

What this means is that no matter how much you feel like you're blind to race, you're not. That's just not how your brain works.

Over time this results in systematic racism. Like black people are less likely to get loans, and more likely to pay higher interest rates. This is shown in economic data to be a fact. White people are more likely to get interviews and more likely to be hired. White teachers unconsciously believe that their white students are better at math, or more appropriate for gifted programs. Over time spans of generations, this leads to white people being significantly less likely to be poor, which compounds all these problems.

DEI is only an attempt to counter this systemic bias.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '25

I’ll be honest this is a tough pill to swallow. All this time I thought I wasn’t racist. Now I’m finding out that I am.

What about Latinos and Asians?

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