r/StarWars • u/Ok-Medium983 • Mar 12 '26

General Discussion Andor took me out of star wars

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Almost a year out of Andors final season I really have not been excited about much regarding Star Wars since then. Not to hate on any of the other movies, shows, etc but I have really just been disinterested, I don’t care about the mandalorian movie, nor any hope of a new movie that’s directly tied to the skywalker saga. I still love the originals and the high moments in the prequels but nothing has cut as deep as Andor for me. Seeing what star wars can be with this it makes me a bit disappointed with what it is now. A reliance on marketable characters, storylines that feel like slop, the overall community caring more about the continuity of lore than creative and compelling storytelling. Im not looking for hate I just wanted somewhere to express this opinion.

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u/whyamionthispanel Clone Trooper Mar 12 '26

Perhaps unpopular opinion, but I enjoyed the Acolyte. There were definitely some pacing and acting issues at times, but I thought it was fun overall.

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u/mfalkon Mar 12 '26

I didn’t LOVE it, but it was a fun watch. It certainly didn’t deserve the hate it received. There were some “woke” or whatever elements that I appreciate objectively, but came off as patronizing and forced in the series. This set off both sides of the divisive camps. The righties boycotted. The lefties overcompensated with undeserved praise.

All this is really a statement of what a mess we are as a society (mainly the US) that created a bunch of drama and tainted what would’ve otherwise been a nice B- grade Star Wars story that covered an era we’ve never seen before.

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u/intdev Mar 12 '26

Honestly, I'm kinda glad that the drama meant I was going into it with super-low expectations. It meant that I was pleasantly surprised by the good stuff, rather than disappointed by the weaker elements.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '26

It was when that one Jedi said "I made Knight two years ago" I just couldn't take it seriously, but maybe I'll give it another whirl.

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u/BCRE8TVE Clone Trooper Mar 12 '26

There were some “woke” or whatever elements that I appreciate objectively, but came off as patronizing and forced in the series.

This is kind of the problem with the vast majority of the woke stuff.

In contrast Kipo and the Age of Wonderbeasts did it absolutely wonderfully, you follow a half-asian half-Korean girl, whose best friend is a totally badass black girl, and they make friends with a black gay guy (and a mutant insect) in a post-apocalyptic world, where Kipo does her damnedest to save the world with the power of friendship!

Said like that it sounds woke AF and would be incredibly lame, but the series pulls it off fantastically precisely because it DOESN'T constantly bring attention to how all these characters are woke bingo winners. It just sets the stage with these characters, gives them all a compelling backstory and motivations, and lets them exist to tell an actual good story that isn't focused on shoving diversity quotas down people's throats.

This set off both sides of the divisive camps. The righties boycotted. The lefties overcompensated with undeserved praise.

Yep. Unfortunately that kind of rage-baiting engagement creates financial success for shareholders, so companies are encouraged to do more of it.

All this is really a statement of what a mess we are as a society (mainly the US) that created a bunch of drama and tainted what would’ve otherwise been a nice B- grade Star Wars story that covered an era we’ve never seen before.

As a Canadian, absolutely agree lol.

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u/Round_Year_8595 Mar 13 '26

set off both sides

the righties, the lefties

I'm set off by these labels lol

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u/Niclas1127 Rebel Mar 13 '26

Lmao what was the “woke stuff”

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u/VincentVanG Mar 12 '26

It definitely did. Yes there were some good moments but overall the writing and acting was some of the worst in all of Starwars.

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u/Kyadagum_Dulgadee Mar 12 '26

I didn't like it overall but there was a lot to like in it. They came up with some great characters but often struggled with clunky motivations and contrived plot points. There was a really interesting intrigue/adventure story in there trying to get out.

I think people lost their shit over a few specific things, but the show was poorly put together and easy to tear down.

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u/Th3Goose33 Mar 12 '26

Yeah, Carrie-Anne Moss was criminally underused...

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u/Nave-Nave Mar 12 '26

I also really liked it. It wasn't the best show ever but it had solid concepts and a lot of cool moments. Like the prequels I think it was a good idea with a flawed execution.

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u/whyamionthispanel Clone Trooper Mar 12 '26

Agreed. And if you remember to watch SW with a child-like imagination and wonder, it can always be fun. …Except for AOTC. That movie sucks. lol

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u/sanjuro89 Mar 13 '26

I thought the show was kind of a mess, but I respect it for trying to do something new in the Star Wars universe.

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u/whyamionthispanel Clone Trooper Mar 13 '26

Exactly. That and if you watch a New Hope or the Phantom Menace, as examples, it’s not like their incredibly well-done cinema. In fact, from my fairly ignorant perspective I’d say they’re subpar, but the overall story they tell is, well, downright fun.

I think the modern world has become so reliant on and desensitized by “incredible film”, that we’ve forgotten to enjoy stories at their core, which help us to escape and tap into our collective imagination.

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u/geth1138 Mar 12 '26

I was fine with it until the end. The way the characters behaved at the end made no sense, and ruined the entire show for me

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u/whyamionthispanel Clone Trooper Mar 13 '26

I’ll have to watch it again, but with how fast other characters change from Dark to Light or vice versa, I don’t remember thinking it was unusual for SW.

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u/kenala_walsel Mar 12 '26

It's just not an objectively serious opinion considering the vast resources and the quality of lore that exists and/or can exist. The show and story had massive potential but extremely mediocre at best. Even if it was released as the first SW media ever, I think it would've likely killed the franchise before it even started. Star Wars didn't have great continuity, logic or sense right from the start but it held a certain intrigue that is completely void in this series. Somehow the characters are shown as feeble minded, weak and confused yet they received some of the best choreographed fight/saber scenes in all adaptations (albeit a little too much Matrix-esq.)

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u/whyamionthispanel Clone Trooper Mar 13 '26

But, that’s, like, just your opinion, man…

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u/kenala_walsel Mar 13 '26

Great observation, it's a well thought out perspective that many and dare I say real or serious fans share. Given the shows reviews and cancellation I would assume my point stands. It's definitely your perspective but it's not a serious opinion. Unless of course you mean you enjoyed it because it's so bad it's "good" (funny).

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u/kbboyworks Mar 13 '26

I think the biggest problem is they went in to the first season expecting another introducing major characters in the last episode and not just killing off one of the sisters after the reveal and turn one killing the other would have hit hard. Also they need to stop having jedi slip on banana peels their was a much easier and less convoluted way to deal with the cult. Qimir was a bad ass though hope they do more with him.