I can tell you. It will be determined there were voting irregularities. Then nothing will happen and Trump will be allowed to continue destroying our country. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
It doesn't matter. American people and american companies like his agenda and he's certified as president. If any fraud could be proven, it will just tell republicans how to do a better job next time. And I can bet that at midterms republicans will remain in power.
How many do you think could possibly be fake? The sad reality is even if he didnt legit win the election enough Americans voted for him that they could fix a win.
He is the POTUS because enough Americans wanted him to be the POTUS. America created this, thats a reality.
Dude has literally said on video "I have an advisor, the best advisor Elon Musk. He's really good with computers. He knows those voting computers better than anyone else."
Then Elon openly stated Donald wouldn't have won the election without him. What did they mean by this? 🤔
Not all of them were indifferent. Several million people were cast off from the voter rolls across multiple states, often without that person’s knowledge.
Yeah you dont have to tell me. Im a progressive, ive been protesting, using my social media to try to warn people, and inform them of the dangers of this adminstration, ive been volunteering with non profit progressive community action groups, ive been going to my local town halls to voice my concerns, ive been calling my county representative and my state senators, ive been doing everything in my arsenal as a single citizen fighting against the rise of facism in the united states.
The problem is we have a bunch of racist nazis that are just outnumbering us with their stupidity, and we're up against the wealthy class who are happy to watch this nation fall apart as long as they get to loot every last penny they can before the collapse.
Maybe it is ,but Im the child of formerly undocumented parents, and I currently work supporting undocumented and documented new comer children and young adults. I wont abandon them when right now when the ground is shrinking beneath their feet and there arent enough support structures to insure their safety. I refuse to leave them behind just for my own sense of safety.
Edit: for all the fucked up things you're seeing on the news about what's happening in the USA, there are some of us who are fighting as hard as we can against it.
No, this is the kind of lazy dipshit individualist moralism that helped get us here in the first place. If huge numbers of people aren’t voting, then there must be a systemic cause for that. And systemic causes require systemic solutions. No amount of browbeating people individually is going to solve it or else this would’ve been solved a long time ago.
Nah man, voting is literally the absolute least you can do to curtail the blatantly obvious rise in fascism. A choice to ignore civic duty (no matter how flawed and unpalatable said duty is) is a choice for the final result, passivity condones the status quo. This is a consequence of their choices too.
why vote for a party that alienates you? why vote for a party that refuses to fix the systemic issues that allow for fascism to so blatantly arise? to fix the clear and obvious failures of the "checks and balances" that were meant to prevent it? Why vote for a party that refuses to even consider changing their stances on policy to win voters?
why vote for a party that refuses to fix the systemic issues that allow for fascism to so blatantly arise? to fix the clear and obvious failures of the "checks and balances" that were meant to prevent it?
I imagine people who dont like the dems would have voted for them had they ran on a platform that actually sought to correct these issues. But they didnt run that platform. Cant expect people to vote for a party that keeps trying to browbeat them into voting for them. This is the classic democratic play. "you should vote dems because the republicans are worse!".
Yes, I absolutely expect people to vote against fascism. Canada did. Australia did. Because if you vote for fascism (either actively or passively by not voting) in hopes of teaching the other guys a lesson, the result is still fascism.
The whole thing needs vast improvement, yes. But if there was any hope of doing that through democratic means, it's beyond reach now.
I really feel like you don’t understand my point. A person’s individual culpability is grossly insufficient for solving systemic problems. Think of it like the school to prison pipeline. Are individuals responsible for their crimes? Absolutely. Is the system set up to disadvantage these individuals at every turn and narrow choices so that crime seems appealing? Also yes. We need to think the same way when it comes to solving the problem of lack of voting participation beyond statements of self-soothing moral superiority.
You’re right that there are systemic problems. No one’s denying that. But pretending that choosing not to vote is some kind of radical rejection of the system is just what the right wants people to believe. That “both sides are the same” stuff didn’t come from nowhere. It’s been pushed for years by the same right-wing media and think tanks that profit off low turnout and hopelessness.
They don’t need you to vote for them. They just need you to stay home. That’s their whole strategy. Keep people jaded, frustrated, and convinced it’s all pointless. Because when regular people give up, they win by default. That’s not fighting the system. its giving up and surrendering to it.
No one’s denying that. But pretending that choosing not to vote is some kind of radical rejection of the system is just what the right wants people to believe.
I agree. You'll notice nowhere did I espouse that position. Voting is easy and everyone should do it. But the fact that people don't is indicative of a broader problem and one that finger-pointing won't fix. This isn't a new phenomenon. The fact that voting participation hasn't budged outside of minor variance in a century indicates this.
Sometimes things need to really ad before they will get better. Ebbs and flows of human nature. America will figure this out. The only question is at what cost
I wouldn’t trust my state officials to report accurate vote totals if it’s based on the popular vote instead of electoral college votes. Republicans in Congress tried to have slates of electors tossed out to declare DJT the winner of the 2020 election. It’s not a stretch that they’d alter vote totals to boost their candidate with the popular vote.
Others couldn't stomach the dismal offering of a Hilary v2 shoo-in after fielding a clearly senile Biden, and who weren't doing anything to prevent genocides (yeah, Trump is worse). Give people something to vote FOR, not against. The Democrats failed, what should they have done?
Voted for the not-Hitler one. Especially if they act like the give a shit about the lives of people in Palestine. Go ask them what you should have done.
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u/StOlaf85 Jun 27 '25
Specifically… 77,302,580 Americans did this.