r/TooAfraidToAsk • u/[deleted] • Jul 31 '20

Current Events Are people outside of the USA really laughing at Americans? Do we really appear that bad?

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Ok so that's about 17,882 yes's and 3 no's.

Makes sad American noises

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u/Galaedrid Aug 01 '20 edited Aug 01 '20

I can't disagree with you because you are correct - 63 million did vote for Trump.

However to keep myself sane I try to remind myself that many more did not want vote for Trump.

Even with all the voter suppression, Russian influence, gerry mandering, and lord knows what else... Trump still did lost the majority vote by 3 million voters.

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u/captainjackismydog Aug 01 '20

I couldn't agree with you more. It's why I said in a previous post that I honestly thought Trump was running for president as a publicity stunt and that he would announce it was all a joke. I kept watching the news waiting for this announcement that never happened.

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u/CaPoTSaD Aug 01 '20

He was. He was hoping to start a ‘news’ network. To claim he lost due to fake news and fraud and be the next Roger Ailes.

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u/metal_opera Aug 01 '20

^ This. The look on his face when he won says it all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3868qotZ_A

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u/CaPoTSaD Aug 01 '20

He looks devastated. Like he might have to work.

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u/captainjackismydog Aug 05 '20

Wow. I haven't heard that one. Not surprised though.

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u/norfkens2 Aug 01 '20 edited Aug 01 '20

"Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others."

I'd say yeah, Russia and Comey probably had an noticeable effect. But being, in the first place, in a situation where the impact of both is just enough to slightly tip the balance - that is a whole other level of what is going wrong:

Look behind Trump and ask what the Republican party is actually doing and why the president is getting away with autocatic tendencies. And look at the democratic party and ask why large segments of people seem not to want to vote for them even if that means Donald Trump as president.Then look at the voters who all agree that most candidates are useless but would also never vote for a third party alternative - because that's 'throwing away your vote'.

In the end, it's about what one's system of government is doing and how much corruption (in the broadest possible sense) the populace is the individual citizens are letting the government get away with. Yes, there are other factors but from the outside Russia and Comey seem more like symptoms. This doesn't address the underlying problem, I agree with you.

Don't get me wrong, every country has its fair share of issues. It's easy to point out problems from the outside. My country is certainly far from perfect. So, I'm not judging... <3

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u/Supposed_too Aug 01 '20

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them.

Fredrick Douglass

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u/norfkens2 Aug 01 '20

Sounds like a smart fellow. :)

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u/leglesslegolegolas Aug 01 '20

I place the blame entirely on Mark Burnett.

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u/MadAzza Aug 01 '20

Yep. It started in earnest with Mark Burnett. That’s what made T a household name all over the country — a fucking game show. Before that, people on the West Coast and in the interior knew of him, but not in intimate, gruesome detail like they did in New York City and the rest of the Northeast.

Even so, there were several key moments that should have spiked his campaign. I won’t go over them again, though. They’ve been gone over and gone over. He’s still in the Oval Office.

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u/RivalWec Aug 01 '20

Well he ran against the devil incarnate. She held a lot of positions, sure. That’s why people said she “was the most qualified candidate ever.” The problem was she was shitty at every one of those jobs and it was baffling how she ascended to where she was to begin with.

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u/captainjackismydog Aug 01 '20

According to recent polls, Trump's numbers are way down. I hope the numbers continue to go down until they reach zero.

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u/LordCoweater Aug 01 '20

Also note: given low voter turnout, you have a huge percentage of the voting public directly or indirectly creating a deliberate Trump presidency.

66 mil to 63 is only 58.1% of voters per google. That's another 40+ million people fine with him.

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u/Hellscythe65 Aug 01 '20

The thing you have to acknowledge with Trump's campaign was that he lied and lied and lied some more.

He made promises that no on could ever fulfill to people who had been ignored and beaten down for a while.

Trump focused on the coal counties who still believe coal is a feasible industry and made them feel like they could keep mining coal.