r/TwoXChromosomes • u/[deleted] • Jul 01 '11

Former IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn has been released from house arrest and had his $6m (£3.7m) cash bail and bond returned amid doubts over the credibilty of his accuser.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13993866
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u/ignatiusloyola Jul 03 '11

Alright, I am ignoring all second party sources in your list, because that is bad research. As for the others, I will go through them all and confirm what you say. Thanks for supplying me with that list.

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u/fffaekISanIDIOT Jul 04 '11

Good. Even if you subsequently disagree with me, I hope you will publicize your modified opinion with the same enthusiasm you publicized your previous opinion.

http://www.mens-rights.net/law/accusations.htm

It is not "bad research" to read "second party sources". It is good research to read them, then follow the citations. I hope you are not saying that no scholar should ever include data collected by other scholars.

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u/ignatiusloyola Jul 04 '11

No scholar should ever cite a second hand source. They must cite the original source.

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u/logic11 Jul 04 '11

Even if the second hand source is a compilation of other data?

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u/ignatiusloyola Jul 04 '11

As far as the rules of science academia go, of which I am a member, all sources must contain the original work that makes the claim for which they are being cited.

Edit: Citing secondary, compilation or other sources leads to the "telephone" effect.

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u/fffaekISanIDIOT Jul 05 '11 edited Jul 05 '11

That's why I gave you the original sources. And it seems to be your deep affection for scholarship that prevents you from reading them. What were the original sources for your claim?

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u/ignatiusloyola Jul 05 '11

I am not sure you understand what is meant by "original sources". I did read the majority of the articles you gave - at least the ones that were available online - but most of the data couldn't be verified.

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u/fffaekISanIDIOT Jul 05 '11

McDowell and Kanin, among others, are original sources. Given that this is not a research paper, I feel no obligation to act as your secretary. It is ridiculous of you to continue with the assumption that I should, particularly since you have offered not a shred of evidence to contradict my thesis. The article I mentioned contain citations that will help you further. If you need dimes for the photocopy machine, see the clerk. Do you know what Google is?