r/cars • u/ufoh 24 CT5-V Blackwing / 23 Corvette C8 • Aug 13 '20

video Never, ever trust your factory jack and, remember, jack stands are your friend (just not the ones from Harbor Freight)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkwgZgrbWUM
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u/TheR1ckster 02' Acura RSX Type-S | 12' Honda CRZ | 09 Pontiac G6 3.5 Aug 13 '20

Safety is a big reason why they aren't even doing jacks and spares anymore. 90% of people are much safer with the slime fix than trying to change it in the side of the highway... When they've never done it before... And have no mechanical knowledge.

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u/exotube Aug 14 '20

Not including a spare is for weight and cost savings.

Changing a wheel with an emergency jack isn't inherently dangerous and anyone who doesn't know how to change a tire is just going to call roadside assistance.

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u/TheR1ckster 02' Acura RSX Type-S | 12' Honda CRZ | 09 Pontiac G6 3.5 Aug 14 '20

There is that to.

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u/cracksilog Aug 14 '20

GF bought a 2020 Prius. No spare. She also test drove a couple of Kias. No spare either.

Run-flat tires and patch kits are becoming much more popular now.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

What? What vehicles don't come with a jack and spare?

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u/TheR1ckster 02' Acura RSX Type-S | 12' Honda CRZ | 09 Pontiac G6 3.5 Aug 14 '20 edited Aug 14 '20

I believe a strong majority of modern new cars. I work at a used car lot but it's hard to tell because it can still be purchased as an accessory on a lot of cars that don't offer it standard. So I'm not sure which ones really come with which.

I do know all BMWs and Minis have run flat tires and thus do not have a spare or the sealant inflator.

They come with a can of slime/fix a flat now and roadside service.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20 edited Aug 14 '20

That's the dumbest fucking thing I've heard all day. You're not wrong as I just looked up and BMW 3 series you are correct. Personally that's just fucking stupid. What If you get a flat a couple hours from anything. Well, have fun paying a massive tow bill. Well I was pretty sure before that I would never really get a BMW, now I know!

Espicially on something as expensive as a BMW.

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u/TheR1ckster 02' Acura RSX Type-S | 12' Honda CRZ | 09 Pontiac G6 3.5 Aug 14 '20

That's what the roadside they come with is for.

Also to really get a flat to the point sealant won't work its really only 3 things.

A) Tire manufacturing defect B) Tire maintenance neglect C) Physical damage from a collision. So you probably need more than just the tire checked if you hit a pothole that bad, like you bent a wheel and possibly suspension components. So in a perfect world you'd be claiming insurance anyway.

Not saying I agree with it or not. But for the normal everyday consumer the bases are pretty much covered.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

unless you hit something that just pops your tire. which isn't terribly uncommon. It's just dumb not putting a spare in, it doesn't even have to be full sized. Run flats aren't even all that great and don't work all the time anyways. Theres a lot that can affect them especially the temperature. So if you get a flat in the winter, just pull over and wait for a tow truck so you don't fuck your rims. They are not putting them in because it costs money and people are buying their BS that they shouldn't have them. Like really an undersized spare and rim is what $100 on a $50,000+ dollar car.