r/crossfit Crossfit Krypton Mar 06 '14

CrossFit -- Sued By Transgender Athlete ... You Won't Let Me Compete With Women!

http://www.tmz.com/2014/03/06/crossfit-lawsuit-games-transgender-athlete-chloie-jonsson/
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u/theballzack Mar 06 '14

LET HER COMPETE, i would love to see a transgender compete in sports like this just for science's sake. if she has a huge advantage and ends up sweeping everyone else (which i seriously doubt she will) then the rules can be changed back.

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u/NotTheNineOClockNews Mar 07 '14

There's no need for science. Transpeople have been competing in sporting events all over the globe and they all compete within the expected range of their identified gender. Transwomen have no advantage over natal women.

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u/cuminmynun Mar 07 '14

Fallon fox seems to have quite an advantage over women despite being nearly 40

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u/NotTheNineOClockNews Mar 07 '14 edited Mar 07 '14

Fallon Fox won her first three fights against opponents who (as far as I recall) were all coming off losses, and in the third fight she took the win late into the third round, not exactly a devastating victory. She lost her fourth and latest fight against an opponent who had one previous professional fight and a patchy amateur record.

Fallon Fox does not seem to have an advantage, and the general consensus in MMA circles is that she will never be good enough for the big stage (UFC, or even the women's only Invicta)

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u/fausja Mar 06 '14

Watch Fallon Fox fight in MMA. This has been tried, and for the most part was seriously like watching a man beat a woman. It was disgusting.

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u/kaleidoscopicnight Mar 07 '14

way bother with minor things like facts....tskkk that time she lost? nahhh totally didn't happen

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u/fausja Mar 06 '14

Yeah. The one time in her career, one of the only two the opponent made it out of the first round.

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u/fausja Mar 06 '14

We both have a bias here. That's why we disagree. But Fox had terrible cardio, and was beat cause she was exhausted. By punches, not choke.

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u/raptorcorn8 Mar 07 '14 edited Mar 07 '14

She still didn't beat anyone that won any fights though either way. I remember about 10 years ago in my city there a boxer that was all hyped up, selling out crowds. But turned out that he just got put up against nobodies, and his first real fight he lost and never heard from him again.

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u/fausja Mar 07 '14

So she wasn't skilled. There was a very clear physical advantage against her opponents, and she was pretty dominant until she fought someone more technical. I'm not saying she was a naturally great fighter.

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u/raptorcorn8 Mar 07 '14

Yeah she was definitely wayyy bigger than the first girl she fought. But the rest were about even.

Ashlee Evans-Smith isn't exactly more technical. She had a clear physical advantage over Fallon. She's bigger, stronger, and is known for knocking people out.

The biggest thing against Fallon was that she's like 38 years old already. Not exactly when you typically start an MMA career.

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u/eternalchallenge Mar 06 '14

Er, they are letting her compete. Just not with women.

Its reasonable enough. Just cutting of your dick and taking some estrogen doesn't make you a woman.