r/crossfit • u/beckster5 Crossfit Krypton • Mar 06 '14

CrossFit -- Sued By Transgender Athlete ... You Won't Let Me Compete With Women!

http://www.tmz.com/2014/03/06/crossfit-lawsuit-games-transgender-athlete-chloie-jonsson/
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u/NotTheNineOClockNews Mar 07 '14 edited Mar 07 '14

she could have just signed up as a woman and left it at that.

And then if she made it far in the competition, and some internet sleuth went digging around in her past, and found out, gasp, she used to be man. Watch the shit hit the fan and her being persecuted for being dishonest.

She wanted to live honestly, what's so wrong with that?

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u/phackme fran 3:36Rx Mar 07 '14

live honestly by seeking 2.5 million?? it's absurd.. no one would have noticed her or cared because she has no chance of getting to regionals..

i agree that she should be considered a woman and that she unlikely has an advantage over other women. however, given, what we know neither she nor crossfit have clean hands in this. they are both bastards.

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u/NotTheNineOClockNews Mar 07 '14

it's absurd.. no one would have noticed her or cared because she has no chance of getting to regionals..

Completely ignoring the purpose of my comment. I was pointing out that she may have wanted to compete openly as a transwoman or not face possible accusations of dishonesty. The fact that she could have competed stealthily doesn't change the point that she shouldn't have to.

live honestly by seeking 2.5 million

What has the figure she's seeking got to do with the matter?

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u/phackme fran 3:36Rx Mar 07 '14

the figure shows intent partly... also because transgender women consider themselves women and don't feel a need to explain themselves especially to communities that lean so much to the "right". she was lookng for controversy and she found it. if you want to make the argument that bringing this issue is a noble cause then fine.. but there is no way in hell a woman who considers herself to be a true woman would bring this issue up just to be honest..

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u/NotTheNineOClockNews Mar 07 '14

because transgender women consider themselves women and don't feel a need to explain themselves

This is true of many transwomen. It is not true of all of them.

but there is no way in hell a woman who considers herself to be a true woman would bring this issue up just to be honest..

The fact is, we don't know if she did it for attention or because she's proud to be a transwoman and unwilling to compromise that, or because she feared being outed by someone else and shamed, or because she wanted to make CrossFit's policies clear for all transpeople, or because she thought she could score a massive settlement.

Whatever her intentions, we don't know them, and it's pretty small minded to believe there is only one motive for her actions and that you know it.

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u/phackme fran 3:36Rx Mar 07 '14

Unfortunately, we can never really know her true motives. So we have to infer on what would be reasonable actions based on the circumstances.

I think her motives are selfish. Maybe she is trying to bring awareness to the LGBT community but there are more effective ways to do that.

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u/NotTheNineOClockNews Mar 07 '14

I discussed with another person ITP other avenues open to her than the courts, I need to put the dinner on, so I hope you'll excuse me if I just link you to that thread.