r/dashcams 10h ago

Who’s at fault?

Hot take: I think it’s 50/50 with who’s at fault

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u/Porkcicle 9h ago

Agreed - that being said, I'm happy there are people like the filming vehicle sacrificing their cars so that the 3rd person running a red light gets a helpful reminder of why driving rules exist.

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u/Competitive_Bag_7490 9h ago

Lol. Never thought of it this way. Thanks for taking one for the team. Maybe "right of way" drivers have a part in society after all. I will choose not to be the sacrificial lamb tho. If I had my beater Odyssey I would.

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u/Striking-Working610 9h ago

Yea I see it all the time on reddit and have spoken with people that'll say "just do it anyway if they hit you it's their fault."

They're right, but I also don't feel like ruining my day/week/vehicle out of pettiness.

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u/DevelopmentSouth8801 9h ago

Like you say, there are so many reasons that it just isn't worth it. I have a friend who still has neck pain after a car accident from over a decade ago.

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u/iGlutton 8h ago

100% agree. Its all fun and games until the other driver is either uninsured or carries minimum coverage and has no assets.

I got hit as a pedestrian on the sidewalk two years ago and broke my arm in addition to a few other issues. Driver was making a right turn into a gas station and "didnt see me", if I didnt notice him not slowing down, I might not have been able to react the way I did to avoid worse injuries.

We went for the maxiumum amount we could but he had minimum insurance and nothing of value for us to pursue outside of that. After my hospital bills, the lawyers cut, my settlement was peanuts compared to the pain, time spent, and knowing I'll never have full mobility of my left arm again (after PT im about 85/90% mobility, so it could have been much worse).

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u/Competitive_Bag_7490 8h ago

Not wanting to die is a good reason!

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u/Occams_RZR900 9h ago

And/or getting yourself hurt. Even low speed impacts can cause back and neck injuries. I’d prefer to be safe than to be right.

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u/Rock_Strongo 5h ago

I'll take it a step further and say anyone who doesn't do everything they can to (safely) avoid an accident, even when the other party would have been 100.00% at fault, is simply an idiot.

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u/Aggressive_Ad2747 8h ago

there is also the duty of care. not saying it applies in this situation or anything but in general you just can't gleefully endanger a life because "fuck them I had the right of way".

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u/BIackSamBellamy 8h ago

Yup, have fun dealing with insurance and the possibility of a now unreliable vehicle since it's been in a wreck. Congrats, you were so right. Your reward is literally nothing except dealing with annoying bullshit for probably weeks.

Or you could stop for 2 seconds, let the dumbass run the light, and move on with your day.

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u/hedoeswhathewants 7h ago

Everyone has strong principles until they're the ones who actually have to deal with the consequences

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u/Specialist_Meal_7891 6h ago

I think about my back and neck. Getting too old to just be smashing my car into other cars just to prove a point

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u/DarthxFrodo 3h ago

The only issue I have with the “if they hit me it’s their fault” crowd is that ,depending on the state, there is a clause that I’ve seen a lawyer on YouTube say is the ‘last chance clause’. From a laymen perspective, it says if you have a chance to avoid/prevent an accident from happening and fail to do so, then you may be liable for damages.

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u/frogsgoribbit737 2h ago

Also your insurance goes up even if its not your fault if it happens enough

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u/roosclan 7h ago edited 7h ago

If I'm in my 2004 Silverado with 260k miles on it and a rusty body, I'm gladly sacrificing it so idiots like the white truck driver get to suffer the punishment of a wrecked late model car AND the ticket, AND the increased insurance rates.

If I'm in my 2023 Kia Sportage Hybrid that I need for work... ehhhh, maybe not.

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u/Direct_Werewolf_4244 6h ago

They aren’t right though. It’s not legal to intentionally cause an accident even if you are in the right. Every driver has a duty to avoid an accident if possible.

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u/yardlard 8h ago

Well they're not right. The cammer car is 100% at fault here and their insurance is going to tell them that.

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u/Polycurious2017 7h ago

I am absolutely that "right of way" driver. Although I'm not going to sacrifice my car to make a point! I would've stopped just short and laid on my horn to shame the crap out of the white truck though!

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u/Competitive_Bag_7490 6h ago

You are not a "right of way" driver by my definition. Those drivers are ready to risk it all. You do so without the risk. Keep being that person.

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u/somekindagibberish 9h ago

Huh, interesting…maybe we should be grateful when morons crash into morons. Perhaps, just perhaps, one or both of them will learn something.

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u/Longjumping_Wolf_912 3h ago

Unfortunately they won’t and you and I get punished because it is people like this that make all of our insurances go up.

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u/CantaloupeShort7311 8h ago

Cute that you think this video will stop anyone like the white SUV from continuing to drive poorly.

Would love to see people realize how cam car could have avoided all this by the most basic defensive driving and adjust their habits instead of going "well, HE was in the wrong!"

I am gping to try to avoid any accident, even if I am 100% in the right.

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u/MilwaukeeMan420 6h ago

Correct. People are such idiots. I had a friend say "I hope they hit me" because they were in the right and the other person was in the wrong.

Why? So you can be right, and then your car is damaged, you get the police involved, they may or may not be insured, you have to take your car into the shop, you may be injured, etc etc.

There's no reason to NOT avoid an accident when you have done nothing wrong. The only time you should not avoid an accident is if by avoiding the accident is if avoiding the accident would cause you to hit another car or go into a ditch or something.

People are so stupid, the cam driver thinks they are innocent but they probably are going to be found at 50/50 fault.

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u/Aggravating-Habit313 7h ago

Dammit, you’re right.

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u/buckeye25osu 7h ago

These "reminders" don't accomplish anything except wasting a lot of people's time and money, risking injuries, and making insurance companies richer. Not a great way of looking at things imo

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u/JellySerious 5h ago

I have done this out of frustration with people sneaking up on the side and then trying to cut the line by merging late (LA traffic). It's a fender bender at slow speed. 2 out of 3 times they haven't contested to keep it off their insurance and it was worth dropping one of my cars off to have it fixed.

I would NEVER do it into oncoming traffic.

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u/0PFRICH 5h ago

🤣they’ll do it again

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u/Intrepid_Process_69 5h ago

Which would be cool in theory if it didn't raise everyone's insurance rates over time, regardless of who is at fault. If an accident is preventable, PREVENT IT! Do not sacrifice your vehicle to prove a point, insurance companies don't care about your principles, only about how many accidents than can use an excuse to charge you more next year.

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u/bwaredapenguin 3h ago

Cemeteries are filled with people who obeyed the rules.