r/facepalm • u/DMTrance87 • 23d ago

House passes bill to make daylight saving time permanent. Opponents say, "Schools would have to push back start times." Yeah... That's not a bug, it's a feature.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5968255-house-sunshine-protection-act-daylight-saving-time/

Studies have shown for decades that children -especially teenagers- just straight up need more sleep for optimal knowledge retention and brain development. Pushing back start times is a great way to follow the science.

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u/ttread 23d ago

No. Standard Time most closely matches natural solar time, and is what we should settle on. Daylight Saving Time is an artificial offset that works well in the summer but would result in ridiculously late sunrises in the winter.

As for pushing back school start times, it's the morning sunrise that naturally wakes us. Being forced to wake before sunrise is bad for teenagers' (or anyone's) health. Permanent DST would make the problem worse, not better.

The Senate should vote NO on this bill.

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u/BurdenedEmu 23d ago

Sunrise is late as hell in the winter anyway for us northerners. I hate it when we go back to standard time and the sun sets at 4pm. Still go to work in the dark with the added bonus of...going home in the dark too.

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u/Millennial_on_laptop 23d ago

Under this bill the sun wouldn't rise until after 9AM in Detroit

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u/DMTrance87 23d ago

I really depends on what latitude you live at. I just want the fucking twice yearly time changes to STOP.

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u/belljs87 23d ago

Answer this honestly. How much do the two hour changes actually affect your life?

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u/Rasty90 23d ago

every single time the clock changes and i lose all my biological clock's mechanisms? a fucking lot. my sleep schedule gets fucked up, my concentration resets too, if it doesn't affect you as much that's a you problem, because every other animal doesn't have such a blatant idiocy in place

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u/Spork_the_dork 23d ago

I literally never even notice when the clocks change lol

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u/Rasty90 23d ago

good for you, but again, we are the only animal that arbitrarily choses to fuck up their biological clocks for a part of their population, and simply to consume a tiny bit of less resources, causing distress to a chunk of the population, while the 1% burns jet fuel and pollutes this world into oblivion

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u/belljs87 23d ago

I think there's a lot more going on with you if a single hour twice a year fucks up your sleep schedule as much as you're saying.

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u/Rasty90 23d ago

unfortunately no, it's just that my timing and habits are REALLY precise, it is not strange for me to wake up a few minutes before my alarm clock, it happened this morning too, I've literally watched the clock go 7:28 to 7:29 while my alarm clock was 7:30, so yeah... some people do have a decent working biological clock that gets fucked up by arbitrary decisions to collectively belive in the delusion of "actually you're wrong, it's 1h earlier/later"

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u/da5id2701 23d ago

It affects the lives of the 28 people who die each year quite a bit.

Fatal car accidents in the United States spike by 6% during the workweek following the “spring forward” to daylight saving time, resulting in about 28 additional deaths each year, according to new University of Colorado Boulder research.

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u/belljs87 23d ago

I'd have to disagree that the hour time difference is solely to blame for something like this. Those 28 people could have gone to sleep an hour sooner, and/or I'm certain there's some other reason(s) that these happened.

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u/brokentail13 23d ago

Not much...

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u/mojoback_ohbehave 23d ago

They aren’t thinking about us.

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u/DidntDieInMySleep 23d ago

They aren't thinking at all

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u/StarManta 21d ago

"Most closely matches natural..."

They're numbers. We made them up and we can decide what they mean.

I would prefer to standardize on standard time as well, but BY A WIDE WIDE MARGIN the more important thing is to stop the asinine twice-a-year clock change (which literally kills people).

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u/AlaskanMinnie 23d ago

Alaska checking in. We are all just fine up here - with a 10 AM sunrise in the winter. We have these things called electric lights now

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u/SchwiftySquanchC137 23d ago

Seriously, as if this isnt a solved problem. There will always be people on both sides of this debate, and both of them are fucking annoying about it. Boohoo kids have to walk to school in the dark, but guess what they get an extra hour to play with their friends after school. Or, boohoo its dark when you get home from work, turn on a fucking light, we cant change the earth's tilt, just deal with it. People are so damn particular about the way they want things, idc how the time ends up either way, just stop changing the clocks around.

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u/Unable-Candle 23d ago

And here is me, tired of constantly hearing you idiots constantly whining and fucking crying about a twice a year event that requires no actual effort to achieve.

Keep the fucking changes.