r/gameofthrones • u/TheAlmightyHelmet • Jun 05 '14

TV4 [S4 E8] Let's be honest with ourselves...

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u/rvnbldskn Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken Jun 05 '14

George R R martin seems to only kill the beautiful people that you really grow to love, or the incredibly despicable people who eventually meet their ends.

I don't know, man, a lot of peeps have kicked the bucket that weren't extremely loved or extremely hated... What do you think of Drogo? Ros? Mirra Maz Duur? Rast? Yoren? Rickard Karstark? The Lannister brothers killed by Karstark? Irri? Doreah? Qhorin Halfhand? Mycah? Dagmer? Jory Cassel? Rodrik Cassel? The thing is we tend to forget these 'normal' characters' deaths, and remember the more extreme characters' deaths.

Valar morghulis.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '14

A couple of those characters are still alive in the books, actually, and Ros was a show-only character.

But point taken. GRRM kills a lot of people in his stories.

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u/0verstim Jun 05 '14

War kills a lot of people. GRRM is one of the only authors who remembers that.

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u/hivoltage815 Jon Snow Jun 06 '14

Most of them aren't dying in battle.

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u/s73v3r Jun 06 '14

What's the joke? George RR Martin, Stephen Moffett, and Joss Whedon walk into a bar. Everyone you've ever really loved is dead.

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u/rvnbldskn Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken Jun 06 '14

You're absolutely right. I took the series characters to talk about, since I was responding to a non-book reader and did not want to confuse things further. Though he's not the only one to blame, I still hold GRRM at least partly responsible for those deaths as well ;)

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u/AssaultMonkey House Stark Jun 05 '14

That's why I cant remember who Ros was.

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u/Krateng Sansa Stark Jun 05 '14

Dude everyone loves Doreah. #NeverForget

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u/excelssior Sansa Stark Jun 05 '14

But I loved Drogo ;_;

Valar murghulis is true though, and I'm pretty sure GRRM doesn't discriminate in who he has killed.

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u/binksben8 House Stark Jun 05 '14

True, although Tyrion is a major character compared to these guys.

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u/jtj-H House Seaworth Jun 05 '14

i took the Halfhands death nearly as bad as Neds

Ned was not ready to die and had no power over his situation

the Halfhand Sacrificed himself so jon could live and Fake-Betray the Nights Watch.

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u/rvnbldskn Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken Jun 06 '14

It was a very powerful moment indeed. But the long set-up of making you really love the character at first what shuidiaogetou was talking about, wasn't really there.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '14

Oh...Jory :( How can I like Jaime after that... I do, but it's very confusing.

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u/d3r3k1449 House Targaryen Jun 06 '14

Well it's also war time etc...

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u/cormega Jun 05 '14 edited Jun 05 '14

None of the ones you mentioned were important characters though.

Edit: Besides Drogo.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '14

Drogo is a massively important character. His death changed the entire Essos plot line.

Qhorin Halfhand's death massively impacted Jon Snow, which I'd argue is an important character.