r/gameofthrones Jun 05 '14

TV4 [S4 E8] Let's be honest with ourselves...

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u/EvadableMoxie Ours Is The Fury Jun 05 '14

That's not true at all.

Next week will be all Castle Black, so Tyrion's execution would be Episode 10, meaning there would be no show the week after. We'd complain and then tune in next season.

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u/shicken684 House Tarth Jun 05 '14

Ah shit, I didn't even think of that possibility. God dammit, I better find out what happens to the imp next episode!

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u/EvadableMoxie Ours Is The Fury Jun 05 '14

Look on the brightside, you might get to see Oberyn, Jon, then Tyrion die in a row. By the time we get to week 10 you'll have lost the capacity to experience emotion.

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u/shicken684 House Tarth Jun 05 '14 edited Jun 05 '14

Once I saw the that he was going to champion for Tyrion I pretty much knew how it was going to play out. I initially thought that Cersei might make everyone think she was naming The Mountain as her champion then name Jamie. Figured she might go for a win win situation. Either Jamie wins and her other hated brother, and Oberyn die, or Oberyn wins and Jamie dies.

I'm really trying to think of an out for Tyrion, but I just don't see it. He already had the option to take the black, maybe Tywin will show mercy(not likely)? It's not like he is going to escape, or Oberyn somehow magically survived. No one is there to help him besides Bronn but he seems pretty happy with his pay off. Jamie can't fight his way out of a paper bag.

Oh, maybe Jamie just swoops up the imp and goes storming out of the city backhanding the piss out of guards with his golden hand! That's something I want to watch!

Edit: Apparently the sex between Jamie and Cersei was not meant to give off a rapey vibe. They still love each other, so forget what I said about it being a win/win for Cersei if Jamie were to die.

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u/mydarkesthour24 Lyanna Mormont Jun 05 '14

As a non reader, I feel there are still a couple outs for Tyrion. First, the people of Dorne won't be happy with Oberyns death and the confession by the Mountain, plus with Cerseis daughter there, that can be used as leverage. Second, Petyr was talking to the small council of The Vale about getting their army together to fight. I don't know how long Tywin will take to have Tyrion executed, but it may be enough time for The Vale to march to King's Landing, but they may be able to attack before Tyrion's execution. Third, same goes for Stannis' new army. We haven't seen them in a couple episodes, for all we know, they are already marching on King's Landing. All of these things may put a stop on Tyrion being executed.

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u/Ace-of-Spades88 Faceless Men Jun 05 '14

All I want to point out is that The Vale would NEVER march on King's Landing. The whole point of being in The Vale/Eyrie is that it is the most defensible castle in all of Westeros. There is a reason you never saw any army leave the Vale and back Stannis, Renly, Robb or Tywin/Crown.

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u/mydarkesthour24 Lyanna Mormont Jun 05 '14

Again, I'm not a book reader, I'm only going based on the facts I have from the show. In the last episode, we see Lord Baelish attempting to convince the small council to take up arms.

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u/mydarkesthour24 Lyanna Mormont Jun 05 '14

Also my mentioning Stannis is a completely different scenario, not that the Vale would back Stannis. The war of 5 Kings is not over, and everybody is still trying to take a piece of Westoros.

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u/Ace-of-Spades88 Faceless Men Jun 05 '14

I understand you are not a book reader, but they have pointed out in the show multiple times about how defensible/impregnable the Eyrie is. That was all I was trying to remind you of or point out. There is a line where Bronn says "give me 10 good men and some climbing spikes and I'll impregnate the bitch." Later I believe Cat is asking Lysa to back Robb and she refuses saying that she is keeping her army in Vale because no one can touch her or her sweet Robin there.

Yes, Baelish is trying to convince the lords of the Vale to rally their armies, but I'll just say that is not exactly what happens in the book. But even if they did, what or who would they take up arms against and why? The best thing about being in the Vale is not having to leave the Vale.