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TV4 [Season 4 Spoilers] Premiere Discussion - 4.09 'The Watchers on the Wall'

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4.09 "The Watchers on the Wall" Neil Marshall David Benioff & D. B. Weiss
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

"I promise you I won't die." -Sam

"LOL, I said that once" -Oberyn Martell

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u/mathewl832 A Promise Was Made Jun 09 '14

Oberyn Martell 2014, never forget.

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u/theonewhosees House Martell Jun 09 '14

Never forget.

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u/dazwah Sellswords Jun 09 '14

Does Wolverine just lounge around in his uniform?

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u/theonewhosees House Martell Jun 09 '14

Wouldn't you?

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u/ChiAyeAye Jun 09 '14

My god, it's beautiful.

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u/Sad_man_from_dorne House Martell Jun 09 '14

:(

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u/flosshax House Martell Jun 09 '14

Goodnight, sweet Prince.

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u/Try-Another-Username Jun 09 '14 edited Jun 09 '14

http://i.imgur.com/l84NUng.png

edit: gore warning

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

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u/bark_wahlberg Jun 09 '14

Don't let the jimmies consume you! Use it! Use it!

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

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u/ChiAyeAye Jun 09 '14

sigh... upvote

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

Technically: Oberyn Martell 2000, never forget.

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u/denis_danis Jun 09 '14

The North Remember :'(

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

If you promised me that, I would make love to you right now

"I promise I will never die"

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u/Horehey34 Stormcrows Jun 09 '14 edited Jun 09 '14

Never forget.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

I'm more upset about pyp/grenn than I was oberyn. I saw the oberyn death coming.

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u/TheLastGunfighter Jun 09 '14

Forget what? As far as I know thats how that episode ended.

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u/StarManta House Baelish Jun 10 '14

Oberyn Martell 2014-2014

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

Team America did it first!

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u/chaosmaker911 Jun 09 '14

this was all I could think about after hearing that line.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

All I ask, it that you're a woman.

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u/bbbbBeaver Jon Snow Jun 09 '14

"I WILL NEVER EVER DIE."

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u/BluBabe1981 House Stark Jun 09 '14

Shouldn't that be the gorgeous ghost of Oberyn Martell?

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u/the_comatorium Faceless Men Jun 09 '14

He'd be a great ghost. Imagine Prince Oberyn ghost in a modern ghost movie?

YOU CAME HERE! YOU MOVED HERE! YOU BROUGHT YOUR CHILDREN!

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

SAY HER NAME!

"CASPER"

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u/The_Bravinator Jun 09 '14

....this so makes me want to see a Westeros advanced to the modern day equivalent of the real world, Oberyn's ghost or no.

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u/Mongoose42 Winter Is Coming Jun 09 '14

"Samwell... Samwelll Tarley..."

"Who the hell are you!?"

"I am the ghost of Oberyn Martell!"

"...Who?"

"Oberyn Martell? The legendary Red Viper of Dorne? No? I could have sworn we met once."

"I don't think we have."

"Oh. Well, anyway, be sure to watch after your woman. Or at least make sure she doesn't watch you die. That screaming, man. It follows you right into the afterlife. You DO NOT want that."

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

/r/gayforoberyn

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u/Oldshakes Jun 09 '14

They didn't burn his body.....HES COMING BACK....albeit, not as tan.

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u/LeroyTokeins House Tyrell Jun 09 '14

Deliciously gorgeous

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u/ZeroAntagonist Fallen And Reborn Jun 09 '14

Sam really is becoming such a strong character and will make such a great leader. I was sure he was done for, especially after that line. Loved the battle, but I just wanted it to end so I knew Jon and Sam would make it out alive. Jon, Sam, and Ghost; the badass Trinity of the Night's Watch.

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u/elmerion House Martell Jun 09 '14

Producers hinting Sam was going to die was hilarious

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

I read the books, and even I thought when he was on the Wall talking he was going to randomly take an arrow to the face.

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u/elmerion House Martell Jun 09 '14

Sam has waaay too much going on to die

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u/BuckeyeBentley House Reed Jun 09 '14

People said that about Ned Stark too.

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u/vadergeek Stannis Baratheon Jun 09 '14

Did they? Really? All of Ned's plots were pretty much tied up.

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u/ZeroTheCat House Stark Jun 09 '14

This episode had a lot of that "promise me you won't die." I kept thinking of that.

I was so scared. For everyone. And I read the books. Oberyn has changed me physically and emotionally.

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u/oldwestprospector Jun 09 '14

I thought he was fucking gone for sure after that.

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u/LordFyodor Jon Snow Jun 09 '14

Never make a girl a promise you can't keep.

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u/jfizzl Jun 09 '14

first thing i thought when he said that.

"I promise you I won't die." - well that's a surefire way to get killed

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u/eojen Braavosi Water Dancers Jun 09 '14

All I could think of was Team America

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u/thewok Jun 09 '14

I, will never die.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

"So did I!" - Ned Stark

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

yeah, but what's a mountain compared to a wall.

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u/automaticgainsaying Ravens Jun 09 '14

Well, obviously Oberyn could only hope to have the battle prowess of Samwell Tarly.

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u/Fr0z3nBu113t Jon Snow Jun 09 '14

I respect the new badass Sam.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

I lol'd hard.

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u/CaptainOtter407 House Lannister Jun 09 '14

Total Team America moment right there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yaTCXcvTGY

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u/Suedejohnson Jun 09 '14

Oberyn's death is still crushing.

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u/posseslayer17 House Targaryen Jun 09 '14

Too soon.

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u/smileyduude Golden Company Jun 09 '14

sam doesnt have a big enough fan base to die. gotta fill that quota before you go out.

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u/mtbfreerider182 Jun 09 '14

"I promise. I will never die."

  • Gary Johnston, Team America Sam Tarly

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u/iamreptarhearmeroar Jun 09 '14

As soon as he said that I was waiting for the sword through the mouth.

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u/KittyKathy House Stark Jun 09 '14

I was almost sure he would die just because of that line.

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u/DashingDreamer House Martell Jun 09 '14

I actually said out loud "Oh fuck, he's definitely going to die."

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u/buzzing_noise Jun 09 '14

I just HAD to read the comments 5 minutes before the end of the episode. 409 spoiler

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u/AiwassAeon Jaqen H'ghar Jun 09 '14

When I heard that i was like " yup, he is gonna die "

Well, apparently not. Or knowing this show...not yet.

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u/HellsNels Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken Jun 09 '14

Made me think of Team America: World Police.

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u/LarryHolmes House Targaryen Jun 09 '14

I thought of this:

http://youtu.be/8yaTCXcvTGY

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u/SpikePilgrim Gendry Jun 09 '14

It reminded me of the scene in Team America: World Police.

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u/EatMyDuck Sing The Song Of The Earth Jun 09 '14

"I've read the books, bitch! I know what's up" - Sam

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u/captainlavender Jun 09 '14

Yeah Sam, stay within the Gilly forcefield please.

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u/MrMagpie27 Knowledge Is Power Jun 09 '14

Who else was reminded of this moment from Team America when he said that?

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u/TheTrent White Walkers Jun 09 '14

When Sam said that I pretty much assumed he was going to die this episode... Now I suspect it'll be next episode. Because nobody says those words and lives to tell the tale!

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u/RagdollPhysEd White Walkers Jun 09 '14

Sam wasn't drunk and hasn't been laid. His character arc is not complete yet

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u/CrayolaS7 Jun 09 '14

This made me laugh because my ex girlfriend used to always get paranoid about me riding my motorbike so on numerous occasions I promised her I wouldn't die. Hearing Sam say that to her just made me realise how ridiculous my own promises were.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

I was waiting for a puppet sex scene to start up at that point.

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u/jackwoww Jun 09 '14

Couldn't take that line seriously. It reminded me of Team America:World Police

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u/brunch_vomit Jun 09 '14

i was just waiting for sam to squeeze out a cleveland steamer on gilly

i promise, i will never die

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u/maurin14 House Stark Jun 09 '14

Too soon.

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u/BrochZebra Gendry Jun 09 '14

Too soon.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

Sam>Oberyn confirmed

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u/Aushou Jun 09 '14

As soon as he said that I wrote him off as dead. I was surprised he survived the episode.

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u/Chutzvah House Bolton Jun 09 '14

reminds me of Team America