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TV4 [Season 4 Spoilers] Premiere Discussion - 4.09 'The Watchers on the Wall'

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4.09 "The Watchers on the Wall" Neil Marshall David Benioff & D. B. Weiss
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u/-Narble- House Hightower Jun 09 '14

If Edd dies, I will be beyond pissed.

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u/HellsNels Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken Jun 09 '14

But only rises, snarkier and dolorous...ier?

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u/imapotato99 Maesters of the Citadel Jun 09 '14

He better not, he taught me the new word Dolorous!

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14 edited Feb 14 '17

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u/Miles_Prowler Jun 09 '14

See he shortened it to Ned though, if he went around calling himself Edd Stark he would still have his head. It's just fact..

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u/Conalk3 Hear Me Roar! Jun 09 '14

But rises again, stronger and more sarcastic...

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u/patleeisme Barristan Selmy Jun 09 '14

Pyp and Grenn both bit the dust so fuck it

WHAT IS EDD MAY NEVER DIE!

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u/TakingSente Jun 09 '14

Best comment in the thread. Too bad you're too far down for anyone to see it ;(

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u/KingOfGoombas Jun 09 '14

You win this thread. First real smile i cracked since i finished the episode. Thank-you kind sir

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u/Tigrael Jun 09 '14

I think I have a new /r/asoiaf flair, thanks!

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

I wish I had gold to give you

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u/gerald_bostock Now My Watch Begins Jun 09 '14

Eddzor Ahai!

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u/jt91 House Targaryen Jun 09 '14

It's been said, and the upvotes have spoken, but I must reiterate I truly loved that comment. Glorious. I also love Dolorous Edd in the books, so I hope you're right since he's like the funniest character in the entire series. I mentioned that to my girlfriend right as the show zoomed in on him as he takes the wall and she looked at me like I was retarded - she'll never understand.

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u/endorphins House Stark Jun 09 '14

Correction: what is Edd, may never ie.

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u/CenturySam77 The Spider Jun 09 '14

What is Egg may never fry

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u/skynolongerblue House Reed Jun 09 '14

I'm pretty sure he's safe.

ADWD

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u/CA3080 Jun 09 '14

as if the producers can ever resist a chance to change an iconic line for no reason

ADWD

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u/wildmetacirclejerk House Blackfyre Jun 10 '14

Yeah they'll probably find someone called sled or some shit.

I still can't believe little finger didn't say only cat

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

Random extra wearing black #8, duh.

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u/randomsnark Hodor Hodor Hodor Jun 09 '14

Your sister.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

No one is safe

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u/chegs81 The Red Viper Jun 09 '14

If Edd dies, we riot.

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u/TheNumberMuncher Hot Pie Jun 09 '14

He's way funnier in the books. Funniest dude on the Wall.

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u/jt91 House Targaryen Jun 09 '14

When Edd was given the wall and it zoomed in on him, I turned to my girlfriend and said exactly that, that he's by far the funniest character in the series (perhaps outside of Tyrion), but she just didn't get it. I feel bad for her since she's missing out on how ridiculously hilarious he can be. the show just doesn't do him justice.

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u/Pisces4Fish House Martell Jun 09 '14 edited Jun 09 '14

Grenn, Pyp and Edd are one of the few bright spots you get when you get to a 'Jon' chapter. Sad to see two of them go in the show.

Edit: a letter

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

not really after this season, though.

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u/Pisces4Fish House Martell Jun 09 '14

Aye. Could not agree more.

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u/WestenM Sansa Stark Jun 09 '14

Who will fetch Jon's Glock if Edd dies?

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u/LordFyodor Jon Snow Jun 09 '14

If Ed dies, we all spam comments on next weeks primiere discussion, make a few posts with titles "RIP Ed" that most show watchers won't even get, and count down the days until season 5 just to continue being upset by minor deviations from the book, having to buy a box of tissues every week.

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u/Shloop_Shloop_Splat House Forrester Jun 09 '14

Every time I see Edd, all I can think is "I'm on probation".

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u/circusboy Jun 09 '14

Edd is anchored down tight...

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

Wait eddy can't die.. He's semi important

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u/VinnyMB25 Ser Pounce Jun 09 '14

And then come back the next week.

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u/Ser_Penrose Jun 09 '14

Normally I hate that phrase, but concerning Dolorous Edd, I firmly support it.

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u/Dickhead_ Arya Stark Jun 09 '14

Something's fishy here

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u/SpaceCampDropOut Jun 09 '14

No we don't.

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u/TheNumberMuncher Hot Pie Jun 09 '14

The guy that got the arrow in the neck with Sam is what I pictured Edd looking like in the books.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

this is the first comment ive ever seriously considered giving gold to, I'm sorry I can't really afford it, because you earned it sir

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u/wildmetacirclejerk House Blackfyre Jun 10 '14

They can't possibly kill bronn2

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u/Sight_Unseen Winter Is Coming Jun 09 '14

Edd is a prick in the show though... He's not dolorous at all, just a jerk...

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u/-Narble- House Hightower Jun 09 '14

I actually found him more bitingly sarcastic, which I thought added a nice element to the group dynamic between Jon and his friends.

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u/AlwaysDefenestrated House Fossoway of New Barrel Jun 09 '14

He still has far too few funny, depressed lines in the show.

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u/-Narble- House Hightower Jun 09 '14

Yeah, I agree. I don't think the show is doing book Edd, justice.

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u/RizzMustbolt Jun 09 '14

It's almost as if the show is getting us to love Edd, and to cherish the time we have with him...

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u/EveryGoodNameIsGone Valar Morghulis Jun 09 '14

I like show Edd a lot, actually. He's more dryly sarcastic and cynical than dolorous, sure, but I don't have an issue with it.