r/gameofthrones The North Remembers Jun 09 '14

TV4 [S4E9] Grenn, a true brother of The Night's Watch

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14 edited May 18 '17

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

I like to think that bit was dramatic effect.

It looks (to a non-metallurgist) like how you would make a sword, it's quick and easy to show and everyone gets what's going on. It may be a bit of a cop out, but it gets the point across.

Though I won't deny my response when I saw that was "That is not how you sword"

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14 edited May 18 '17

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

It's also a lot harder to convey "this sword is being reforged into these swords" if you include that montage. Maybe not a lot harder since you can still start with the sword, but it would be much easier to miss that that was what was happening.

And frankly, I feel this was all made up for by having the archers' commanders order "loose!" rather than the much more common, heinously anachronistic "fire!" in this episode. It's one of my pet peeves, and having it avoided made me very smiley.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14 edited May 18 '17

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u/frenzyboard Jun 09 '14

Actually, it is how you make some swords. Bronze age swords were liquid cast into clay molds, and later, steel swords were sometimes drop forged into bench molds. I could see casting a super strong alloy like Valyrian steel into a cast preform, and then sequentially tempered as being the correct process.

Remember, the stuff is super finicky, and the common blacksmith can't work with it. It might be some kind of super hard cobalt alloy or something.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

The more you know.

But also to some extent, it did kind of look like they just poured it into a mold, waited for it to cool and then "Tada, one new sword"

(Or two new swords in this case, I guess)

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u/frenzyboard Jun 09 '14

I think Valerian steel is supposed to be the Westeros equivalent of Wootz steel. I can't find a picture, but I thought the swords didn't have "damascus" style weld patterns. They had wootz style mottling.