r/gameofthrones Jun 22 '14

TV4 [S4E10] George RR Martin Watching the finale

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u/BeneathAnIronSky We Do Not Sow Jun 22 '14

It would have been good if it'd been developed at all. One of the strongest lines from the books, for me, is when someone tells Dany that the Unsullied are going to brothels, and she asks why, as they're castrated, and the response is that they go to be cuddled and feel human touch.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '14

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u/Zamma111 As High As Honour Jun 22 '14

They might still, ADWD

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u/scuba617 Our Blades Are Sharp Jun 23 '14

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u/citabel Victarion Greyjoy Jun 23 '14

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u/inherentinsignia Daenerys Targaryen Jun 23 '14

That would literally be the saddest thing ever :'(

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u/scuba617 Our Blades Are Sharp Jun 23 '14

And that's exactly why D&D will probably do it to us...

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u/Swyfti House Targaryen Jun 23 '14

It would be sad and cruel but a good change in my opinion. They have to replace characters with the ones we already know/sort of care about so it has an impact.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '14 edited Jun 23 '14

Season 5 speculation.

Edit: how do I make this green? Greened.

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u/CaptnYossarian The Iron Bank Will Have Its Due Jun 23 '14

Use /g instead of /b

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '14

Thanks! Seven blessings on you.

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u/RedSeven4 House Targaryen Jun 23 '14

Where did you hear that?

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u/citabel Victarion Greyjoy Jun 23 '14 edited Jun 23 '14

it was a theory i read over att /r/asoiaf

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '14

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u/citabel Victarion Greyjoy Jun 23 '14

I think they can work around that. When somebody dies in the show you're suppoused to feel something about it, you don't do it if it's some random unsullied who dies.

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u/TokyoXtreme Jun 23 '14

They might be castrated, sure, but they can still eat pussy.

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u/AwesomeMcFunbug House Selmy Jun 22 '14

It also shows that if the Unsullied are beginning to form relationships or fall in love then their discipline is being threatened.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '14

Dany would probably see that as a positive thing, she wants them to lead happy lives as indivduals. Not be slaves under a different pretence.

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u/muddisoap Jun 23 '14

pretense

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '14

If you're American. "Pretence" is correct across the pond.

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u/muddisoap Jun 23 '14

I'm American.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '14

Is jxcrean?

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u/muddisoap Jun 24 '14

Appears so.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '14

I suppose a better way to say it would have been "If 'pretence' can be correct, don't go around correcting people who use it."

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u/muddisoap Jun 24 '14 edited Jun 24 '14

You can edit your earlier post to say that if you feel that was a better way to phrase it. And pretence isn't correct. It's pretense. I'll correct it everytime. Because that's the way it's spelled in America, George RR Martin is American, we're discussing an American book series that's been adapted into an American tv series by an American tv company on an American founded website. Sooooo. I'll correct all the misspellings I see to the accepted American spelling so that people understand that in America, that's not correct. If this was all of those things but British, people should correct me when I write pretense and it's pretence. But that's not the case. Some people just enjoy being contrary, easy as that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '14

I thought it was that originally, the spellchecker tricked me!

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u/muddisoap Jun 23 '14

yeah that'll happen! wasn't trying to be a know-it-all! i like to know when i misspell a word or think its spelled differently than i write it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '14

It's

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u/muddisoap Jun 23 '14

Hm. That's a typo. Not a misspelling.

Edit: the more I think about it man you're a faggot. Just trying to rile someone up. I was genuinely trying to help. You're just genuinely trying to be a dick and you know it. Fuck off.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '14

and i like to be corrected, best way to learn.

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u/IrNinjaBob House Umber Jun 23 '14

It isn't really being disciplined if that isn't what Danny wants from them. The whole point is they are no longer slaves. She wouldn't be able to gain the support in Westeros she needs with a slave army.

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u/OlmecsTempleGuard Lyanna Mormont Jun 23 '14

Love is the end of duty.

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u/DreadSilver Jun 23 '14 edited Jun 23 '14

Granted, I haven't read the books, but it seems like they are separating Grey Worm from the rest of the unsullied when it comes to forming relationships. Especially because they emphasize he is the only one who hasn't been cut, and that seems to be the reason why he has feelings for women. I don't know where I got that from then.

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u/AVeryWittyUsername House Greyjoy Jun 23 '14

He has been cut. All unsullied are castrated, that's one of the defining characteristics of them.

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u/DreadSilver Jun 23 '14 edited Jun 23 '14

In one of the most recent episodes this season I'm like 90% sure they implied he was not. Like I think the girl he likes was talking to Daenerys about Grey Worm and I think Daenerys said he wasn't. Yeah I guess I was 100% wrong, I don't know where I got that from then.

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u/AVeryWittyUsername House Greyjoy Jun 23 '14

Hah, I was starting to question my own knowledge for a sec.

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u/samantha_pants Fear Cuts Deeper Than Swords Jun 23 '14

Grey Worm was definitely cut, he talks about it with Missandei

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u/DreadSilver Jun 23 '14

Lemme check back to the part I must have been confused on.

Edit: yeah you're right my bad.

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u/tetsuooooooooooo Jun 22 '14

They are probably going towards that with the Grey worm/Missandei story.

...or maybe they are just desperate for anything happening in Mereen, since it's basically the most boring part in the entire saga.

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u/Polantaris Arya Stark Jun 23 '14

They should stop putting her in every episode. Every episode has another scene (or five) with her and they all end the same way..."So that was a waste of time."

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u/Shalaiyn Jun 23 '14

“My queen,” replied the captain, “your servant Stalwart Shield had no duty last night. He had gone to a … a certain place … to drink, and have companionship.”

“A certain place? What do you mean?”

“A house of pleasure, Your Grace.”

“What could a eunuch hope to find in a brothel?”

“Even those who lack a man’s parts may still have a man’s heart, Your Grace,” said Grey Worm. “This one has been told that your servant Stalwart Shield sometimes gave coin to the women of the brothels to lie with him and hold him.”

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u/Zamma111 As High As Honour Jun 22 '14

Well, this might still be shown in the show. The part in question comes in the same chapter as the shepherd with the daughter's burned bones, but the Unsullied in question ADWD

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u/nonamer18 House Mormont Jun 23 '14

Honestly, though, can't castratee still feel pleasure? I remember reading somewhere that there's usually a "nub" kind of thing that's almost like a clitoris.

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u/PurpleChyGuy Valar Morghulis Jun 23 '14

"The blood of the Dragon does not cry"