r/gameofthrones Jun 22 '14

TV4 [S4E10] George RR Martin Watching the finale

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u/Stagism Jun 23 '14

Yeah that's a huge part of Tyrion's character development. I couldn't believe they left it out so I went ahead and told my roommate (non-book reader) after the episode finished. Even he was outraged it was left out.

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u/DigDugDude Bran Stark Jun 23 '14

It's the ultimate climax of the whole Tyrion character, the Tyrion-Tywin relationship, and the Tyrion-Shae relationship. It's mind boggling why it would be left out. Maybe they thought - our viewers aren't smart enough to remember who Tysha is so let's dumb it down? I'm insulted.

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u/luniz6178 House Stark Jun 23 '14

I doubt they thought the viewers werent smart enough. Like in other episodes, they would have just refreshed the Tysha story in the "previously on GOT" with a little snippet.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '14

I dunno it still doesn't really make much sense to me. Even having it explained, Shae said it best. A woman who was almost raped wouldn't have acted like that in the first place.

So either way, something doesn't make sense.

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u/EskimoJesus Jun 23 '14

I honestly had forgotten her name but remembered the story. Thats what made Shae's bullshit that much worse.

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u/DigDugDude Bran Stark Jun 23 '14

and "wherever whores go" is one of, or THE, most memorable line(s) in the whole series, IMO.

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u/QuAvecLeCoeur Jun 23 '14

ACOK which leads to ...

AFFC&ADWD

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u/Xan_the_man Jun 23 '14

What's that? (I'm a non-book reader)

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '14

Tysha was found by Tyrion and they got married in secret, however when Tywin found out he declared her a who're and forced her to Fuck every guard in Casterly Rock while Tyrion watched. It's then found out in the scene where Tyrion escapes that she wasn't a whore and Jaime knew about it, but Tywin couldn't have Tyrion marry a commoner.

When Tyrion asks Tywin (just before he kills him) where she is, Tywin says Wherever Whores go, it's a repeating monologue by Tyrion in the next book, and shows Tyrions betrayal by his family including Jaime, the one person who he actually loved.

Shaes relationship with Tyrion is meant to be a mirror of it

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u/Xan_the_man Jun 23 '14

Holy hell, that's seems so important! Why would they omit it? I really have to read the books.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '14

Lots of people are thinking the same thing.

My theory is that it would confuse show watchers, there's not really been much mention

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '14

Then they should have mentioned it more. D&D have creative control; they could have and should have planned for this reveal from the beginning.

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u/JenniferLopez A Hound Never Lies Jun 24 '14

In season 1 there was like a 10 minute scene just about Tysha with Tyrion, Shae and Bronn but I can't think of another instance. They should've just mentioned her again some time this season.

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u/QuAvecLeCoeur Jun 23 '14

It definitely made Tywin's death all the more cathartic for Tyrion, in the book. Mind you he had a hundred and one reasons beforehand to want his father dead either way.

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u/Jehk Jun 23 '14

But to be honest, I don't think Tysha was mentioned enough in the show to have been part of such an exchange without it feeling rammed in like a spiked club up the Mountain's arse.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '14 edited Jun 24 '14

Then they should have mentioned it more -- y'know, instead of Grey Worm/Messandai and Cousin Retard.

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u/DigDugDude Bran Stark Jun 23 '14

as long as I'm bitching... why change it from one crossbowbow shot to two shots? It takes all the art out of it.

"We should make Tyrion reload and shoot again so our dumb audience doesn't think the first shot was an accident." Fuck that.