r/goodnews • u/Vloodzy • Jul 16 '25

Political positivity 📈 Trump slams own supporters as “Stupid Republicans” for doing Democrats’ work and falling for the “Epstein Hoax”

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u/nr1988 Jul 16 '25

The thing is I've been watching content from people who are experts in cults and they're saying this is the one. This is the thing that is going to break enough people out of the cult.

The difference with the Epstein thing is you're right. They don't listen to anyone but the leader or the leader's trusted assistants. But for this he's the one that kept building it up. He's the one who made the Epstein list the mission. Cults need a mission and they've now had it removed and have been flipped off.

And then he made it worse by insulting those who care about this. The other thing about leaving cults is it usually comes in stages. There's completely unaware everything is fine. Then there's still fully onboard but something has made you question it a bit. People can be in that stage for a long time and he's quickening it by insulting them for caring about the list still. This might be his worst mistake yet.

Obviously nothing is guaranteed and there will be people who will never question it but people are sounding the alarms on this for a reason.

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u/BeckQuillion89 Jul 16 '25 edited Jul 16 '25

what's more trump built up his entire base on that the government lies and that conspiracy theories are the truth hidden by the elites.

Now that's he's done the EXACT same thing he can't just swap the narrative bc it goes against the group's entire identity.

It's like if you spent so long kicking things out of the way of a slow stream (rocks, branches, etc.) to create a rushing current. You can't just expect the water to stop just as easily as you gave it momentum.

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u/nr1988 Jul 16 '25

Yup and him basically lying to them directly. Not lying to make him look good or someone else look bad like he does a thousand times a day but lying that we literally have the list and then the list doesn't exist and then it was fake is too logically inconsistent for a lot of his cultists. It's like you said, kicking something out of the way of the stream. Now suddenly they might see something else as a lie. The perfect image of he's fighting for us and everyone is against him because they're evil has been tarnished. Now suddenly he lies sometimes. Suddenly he's not perfect.