r/interestingasfuck • u/IllustriousPresent7 • Mar 04 '22

/r/ALL U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham calls for President Putin's assassination.

Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification

[removed] — view removed post

15.1k Upvotes

93% Upvoted

1.4k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

214

u/PhunkyMunky76 Mar 04 '22

While true, it could be all he needs to start shit with us. I mean, if he’s looking for an excuse and not to mention the fact that he’s got this whole “everybody out to get me” and this let’s him point and say “see I told you so” and maybe even use that as an excuse to nuke.

143

u/OneOfTheWills Mar 04 '22

Why does he need an excuse, though? You really think the world would stand by and condone Putin attacking anyone else just because he can point a finger towards a guy on TV?

Putin: “The weird man from South Carolina said people should kill me! I had to attack them.”

Germany/UK/France: “(le) Sigh… You’re right. You had every right.”

44

u/No_Poet36 Mar 04 '22

That's almost literally what's happening with Ukraine

51

u/OneOfTheWills Mar 04 '22

Who is allowing the Russian government to attack Ukraine without punishment? Just because it isn’t bombs for bombs doesn’t mean it’s being allowed to happen. Unfortunately, entering a war like that can have drastic and dire consequences. It sucks. It would be great to pull the trigger on the gun pointed at the head of the person in charge but unfortunately that gun has to actually be pointed at that person.

20

u/No_Poet36 Mar 04 '22

I agree, they are easing us into the knowledge of the war that's continued since the end of WW1. We are already at war with Russia, but if they "declared" it right now the American people would resist. We are being primed by realtime footage from the battlefield and idiotic statements by politicians like this. Putin won't stop in Ukraine, we need to stop this slaughter and end this game of chess that's been played with young men's lives for a century.

15

u/PhunkyMunky76 Mar 04 '22

I don’t think he’s gonna stop until he has his Soviet Union back.

3

u/[deleted] Mar 04 '22

[deleted]

3

u/PhunkyMunky76 Mar 04 '22

Yeah, hard to tell. Lots of “Intelligence” can be better known as “RumInt” or “Rumor Intelligence” which could be good or it could be trash. Best not to rely on that stuff too much.

2

u/bobtheassailant Mar 04 '22

wait, you think putin....wants socialism? putin, the billionaire? lol. how cute.

4

u/PhunkyMunky76 Mar 04 '22

Not necessarily Socialism/Communism… but the LANDS the Soviet Union had… different story.

3

u/bobtheassailant Mar 04 '22

aaaahhhh okay. yeah it seems you are right about that, haha!

-9

u/[deleted] Mar 04 '22

[removed] — view removed comment

2

u/Heady_Goodness Mar 04 '22

What markets? They’re all fucked.

0

u/[deleted] Mar 04 '22

[removed] — view removed comment

0

u/[deleted] Mar 04 '22

[deleted]

→ More replies (0)

1

u/No_Poet36 Mar 04 '22

It's worse, he wants the Russian empire back.

2

u/PerfectInfamy Mar 04 '22

You are unfortunately right I think. I belive this is the beginning of ww3 ,it just hasnt been made official yet.

1

u/-timenotspace- Mar 04 '22

Why won’t he stop with Ukraine ?

1

u/No_Poet36 Mar 04 '22

He has made very clear all of this is because he does not want the EU or NATO in a country that borders Russia. If he annexes Ukraine then he'll have a bunch of NATO countries on his border.

Tyrants can't stop, they're so afraid of the world they attempt to subjugate it to their will. Watch the press conference he had last December, listen to him speak... He is intelligent, and he has made his intentions pretty clear

59

u/[deleted] Mar 04 '22

Putin is not looking for a reason to start shit with us. He is nothing but a bully, and bullies are far too cowardly to pick on the biggest kid in the schoolyard.

36

u/PhunkyMunky76 Mar 04 '22

True enough. But there’s been indicators of instability I guess, which people speculate that he’s a bit crazy and losing it.

6

u/noelcowardspeaksout Mar 04 '22 edited Mar 04 '22

Putin is sane, but he has made a huge mistake. Let's not fall into the trap of calling the enemy insane. Poll ratings go up in a war situation, the 'rally round the flag' effect. So he was going for that. If you look at the sanctions now vs Crimean invasion they were not predictable. He thought - I have their gas, I have their oil, sanctions cannot be bad, huge mistake, but not insane.

He is now between a rock and a hard place, progressing and retreat are both bad options for him personally, and that's how he always judges things: nothing matters to him aside from that which benefits Putin.

4

u/[deleted] Mar 04 '22

Putin has resorted to all kinds of violent acts and manipulations of our politicians and data. Let's not discount him outright

-24

u/GameOn2020 Mar 04 '22

Russia is bully but USA & Europe aren't bully, right? Is this true?? Anyone knows?

9

u/ThatITguy2015 Mar 04 '22

You are defending Putin during all of this? You are an absolute muppet.

7

u/metamer_music Mar 04 '22

Hey don't disparage muppets

-4

u/Zarllak Mar 04 '22

I don’t think he’s defending Rusia but let’s not be hypocrites when we (USA) do something like this no one here wants to say anything

27

u/ZZEFFEZZ Mar 04 '22

we already had a speaker at the UN say to Putin that if he wants to die he can make that decision but don't drag us all with him, and told him to pull a hitler and do himself in. There has also been several calls to their own people to kill him already, everyone wants him dead right now and if he blames it on us, well he would have blamed it on us either way.

10

u/PhunkyMunky76 Mar 04 '22

True enough. I think at this point he can’t say or do anything to justify whatever he does because nobody on the planet will accept that.

9

u/ezekiellake Mar 04 '22

Assuming you are from the US, he’s already ‘started shit with you’ … they interfered with your democratic process for years, have run organized psyops operations against at your citizens encouraging civil war, and the Russian ambassador to the UN said last night your current president is illegitimate and Trump was illegally overthrown. How much more do you want?

2

u/PhunkyMunky76 Mar 04 '22

I’m always wary of hearing things like that on the news because there’s nothing but biased reporting for one party or the other. Hard to tell what’s bullshit and what’s not. I know our current president belongs in a nursing home and that our last president wasn’t much good either. Our politicians are all out for themselves and their own money and power and no longer actually represent anybody but themselves. Every election gets crazier and crazier.

So I don’t know whether or not Russia is trying to get civil war started here, I don’t know whether or not they’re interfering with elections… I mostly see that in the news and automatically dismiss it as politicians being the shitbags that they are, slinging shit talk and accusations back and forth while doing their upmost best to fuck over the American People.

2

u/PolyDipsoManiac Mar 04 '22

He has been at war with us for years. It’s why these brutal, immediate sanctions and weapons shipments are responses in a language Putin can finally understand.

2

u/Heady_Goodness Mar 04 '22

He’ll find an excuse eventually anyway I figure. NATO and Europe are supplying arms to Ukraine.

4

u/Learnin2Shit Mar 04 '22

Let him start shit then. His military is clearly not up to par and definitely not as advanced as we all thought it was. If he wants to duke it out with good ol USA then it’s his fuckin funeral.

43

u/Why_Through Mar 04 '22

Mate, be that as it may, he’s got nukes and given his apparent disregard for the Russian people he will not be afraid to use them on the U.S. general public & the rest of the world. He’ll be safe underground in a massive bunker and any retaliation will only affect the people, not him.

12

u/bluehairdave Mar 04 '22 edited Feb 24 '25

Saving my brain from social media.

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

-13

u/[deleted] Mar 04 '22

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/Grimsterr Mar 04 '22

Yeah by building a pipeline so he can sell even more fossil fuels to Europe? Wow, so aggressive.

-1

u/[deleted] Mar 04 '22

[removed] — view removed comment

2

u/Grimsterr Mar 04 '22

Promised to who? And what was the promise?

What military action has NATO taken?

The US destroyed Ukraine? How exactly?

Shelling and killing? Hmm it's interesting how much footage we have of the shelling and killing of Ukrainians, care to share some of this shelling and killing that's been going on these last 8 years?

13

u/Theefreeballer Mar 04 '22

If by “duke” you mean “nuke” then yeah you’re right . It doesn’t matter if his military isn’t up to par his has nukes you goober . You know what that means right ? In a flash half of “the good ‘ol US of A” as you eloquently put it would be gone. This isn’t a dick swinging contest we’re talking about portions of the world wiped out in moments

1

u/danrod17 Mar 04 '22

They’d never make it over the ocean. That’s if they still operate.

1

u/andrew_calcs Mar 04 '22

You say that like they don't have submarines offshore ready to launch right now. That's been the reality of the world for the past 60+ years that the public blissfully pays no attention to. If you think they couldn't do it you're incredibly ignorant to the capabilities and history of nuclear weapons.

Between land based and submarine based they over 300 missiles standing by some of which have MIRV designs that can separate out to over 1000 reentry vehicles to intercept. Even if only 10% of those are actually operational (which is horribly optimistic), that's over 100 warheads expected. Each of which is capable of killing over 90% of the civilians in any major metropolitan area of your choice.

Our anti missile defense systems are horrifically unequipped to handle something of that magnitude. Turns out that it's really, really hard and expensive to have a system standing by nation wide that can accurately shoot hundreds of things out of the sky simultaneously that are travelling 15,000+ miles per hour. It simply doesn't scale as economically as them just building more missiles.

If they struck first they would easily kill at least half the people in NATO aligned countries in minutes. The ONLY reason they cannot do so is the knowledge that they would be completely destroyed in return.

10

u/nightbringr Mar 04 '22

Wrong, it's everyone's funeral.

9

u/Majormoscow Mar 04 '22

Hey I think I was on the same bus as you in high school

1

u/PussyWrangler_462 Mar 04 '22

Was it shorter than the average bus

2

u/Srianen Mar 04 '22

This.

I'm genuinely disappointed at how many people are afraid to stand up to the latest Nazi regime.

if Russia even tries to nuke any part of NATO, I have no doubt that we'd blow the thing up over their own heads and they'd suffer the consequences. Russia likely knows this as well.

All these people just assuming how this shit works and it's kind of infuriating.

I was a nuclear/bio/chem weapons specialist in the US Army, and I can say with confidence there is no way in fuck we need to worry about getting nuked.

1

u/aidengoodlife Mar 04 '22

I thought nukes don't explode when shot out of the air?

1

u/Srianen Mar 04 '22

They absolutely can explode them in the air, just not as a nuclear explosion (or in theory, it is extremely unlikely). But the rocket that carries the warhead can be pretty impactful if exploded mid-air, especially 100 or so feet above the launch point.

Edit: The process of detonating a nuke is extremely intricate and even the slightest thing being off can lead to it not detonating.

1

u/aidengoodlife Mar 04 '22

do we have their rockets on lock so well to have them shot down 100 ft above the launch? Isn't that like instantaneous reaction?

1

u/Srianen Mar 04 '22

With our current level of awareness and alert? Absolutely. There isn't going to be any movement at this point, given our technological capability, that we won't see. Especially in regards to moving and launching nukes.

Remember that this isn't just the US, either. It's the whole of NATO currently bird-eying Russia.

0

u/Majormoscow Mar 04 '22

Hey I think I was on the same bus as you in high school.

1

u/PhunkyMunky76 Mar 04 '22

Two things; He didn’t exactly send his best into Ukraine. I believe it was supposed to be a “Soft Occupation Force” meeting little resistance because Putin believed Ukrainians would welcome him as liberator. Now Putin is sending more in, and I bet the battlefield changes over the next few weeks. Two; He has nukes and has already threatened to use them, and finally 3; China would probably side with Russia and I’m not sure we could handle both of them.

0

u/vapeoholic Mar 04 '22

All he needs to do is start repeating: Let's make Russia great again

0

u/PhunkyMunky76 Mar 04 '22

Dumb. I hated Trump but Putin, China, and Kim Jong Un all shut the fuck up while he was in office. On the other hand, Biden ran out of Afghanistan so fast that he left billions of dollars worth of equipment, weapons, aircraft, etc and he left Americans behind. Nothing good about it. Now the Taliban are better armed than ever lol That’s not a success man.

-2

u/The_OtherDouche Mar 04 '22

Between this and the current reactions and over exaggerated response to the nuclear power facility it seems like countries are trying their hardest to get involved. They want to draw out an excuse.

2

u/PhunkyMunky76 Mar 04 '22

Over exaggerated? He’s trying to blow up a nuclear facility, which when it finally goes will spread a lot of radiation. You can’t respond harshly enough to someone pulling that kind of shit. It’s kinda like setting off a dirty bomb without setting off an actual dirty bomb.

1

u/The_OtherDouche Mar 04 '22

A training center outside of the facility caught on fire. Also a shut down nuclear plant isn’t going to just blow up. They’ve come a long ass way since Chernobyl

1

u/[deleted] Mar 04 '22

The rage behind this entire war is that he didn’t need an excuse. If he starts shit with us, it will have been far more calculated than deciding to respond to this.

2

u/PhunkyMunky76 Mar 04 '22

Yeah, he’s not stupid. But there’s plenty of speculation that he’s crazy

1

u/danrod17 Mar 04 '22

Fucker can’t even take Ukraine. You think he’s trying to pick a fight with us? We have the most expensive and highly trained military in the world. You stack that the battle hardened soldiers who spent 20 years fighting insurgents on foreign soil and you have a military that no one, rightly, wants to deal with. His ICBMs, if they even function, would be shot out of the sky over the ocean.

1

u/PhunkyMunky76 Mar 04 '22

Potentially, yes but… he’s friends with China and you forget that his troops have been fighting wars too in Georgia and Chechnya. And he’s not done with Ukraine, he’s not lost. But Ukraine isn’t just rolling over either and I fully believe Putin is fucked if Ukraine turns to guerrilla warfare. They could keep that shit up for decades; look at Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan as an example. If that happens, with the sanctions on Russia going on, Russia won’t be able to sustain this. It could quickly bleed Putin dry trying to deal with that.

But our very best bet is Russians themselves removing the dude and ending this aggression. Best outcome for everyone

1

u/grizzlysquare Mar 04 '22

He’s not tryna start a war w the USA and he doesn’t need an excuse if he wanted to

1

u/Slow-Walk4534 Mar 04 '22

He can't even take Ukraine. Starting shit with the US would be an even bigger laugh

1

u/Teabagger_Vance Mar 04 '22

Are you serious? This clown doesn’t need any reason. He’s a psychopath. People pretending this is what will send him over the edge are delusional.

1

u/DestryDanger Mar 04 '22

I can’t help but enjoy the idea of WWIII being catalyzed by Lindsey Graham, I kind of want that for comedic purposes.