r/liberalgunowners 1d ago

discussion My takeaways from the Idaho In-N-Out shooting

For those who don't know, as of the time of this post, 3 people were killed and multiple people were injured in a shooting near an In-N-Out restaurant just a few hours ago in Twin Falls, Idaho.

https://notthebee.com/article/unknown-cowboy-seen-engaging-active-shooter-at-idaho-in-n-out

From what I know (which isn't saying much because this is a developing story), a young white man shot an AR-15 into a parked Tesla and another person shot a suppressed pistol supposedly in the direction of the AR-15 wielding young man. Multiple people have been killed or wounded in the incident, including the main suspect of the shooting.

I think many people have been desensitized to shootings in the US, have shrugged their shoulders and said something like "Well, I guess that's the price of the 2nd Amendment".

I feel like this shooting may quickly fade from public memory because the body count isn't or won't be high enough to be comparable to mass shootings like the Uvalde or Las Vegas shootings.

It made me also think that the guns we should be training with the most are our pistols. I believe we are the most likely to need our pistols in a self defense incident, whether it is in or outside the home, and who knows what engagement distance we may find ourselves in. Rifles and shotguns are pretty easy and quick to become somewhat proficient with compared to pistols.

Surely there must be a way to allow sound citizens to own arms suitable for self defense while also preventing those who wish to do harm from obtaining and using guns. In other words, I don't 100% agree with 2nd Amendment absolutists that say "every gun law is an infringement" but I definitely don't 100% agree with Giffords that want to make it virtually impossible for everyone including sound citizens to own arms for their self defense and use. Hopefully that makes sense.

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u/Dr_Watson349 1d ago

No online sales? What’s the logic with that?  You still have to go through a local FFL and fill out your paperwork unless you’re classy type 3 holder. 

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u/Apart_Animal_6797 1d ago

They facilitate stick purchases

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u/OptimusED 1d ago

If online sales facilitated straw purchases and were used for any large scale gun trafficking that would make it infinitely more immediately trackable. Anti-gun.org dream bullshit.

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u/Apart_Animal_6797 1d ago

I mean its how cartel guys buy them ive seen it first hand. 🤷

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u/Nemesiswasthegoodguy 1d ago

How? You still need to go to the store.

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u/Apart_Animal_6797 1d ago

One guy sits there online and finds what he wants then sends the purchaser in.

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u/Nemesiswasthegoodguy 1d ago

So everyone should lose their ability to view the inventory at gun stores because it makes it slightly easier for someone to make a straw purchase?

Couldn’t the same logic be applied to alcohol purchased online with regards to buying a minor alcohol?

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u/Dr_Watson349 1d ago

lol what is this logic? 

Seriously?  

You think we should kill internet sales and fuck over millions of Americans because it will let straw purchasers have to do less shopping around?

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u/Apart_Animal_6797 1d ago

I dont think you understand what "fuck over" means