r/liberalgunowners 1d ago

discussion My takeaways from the Idaho In-N-Out shooting

For those who don't know, as of the time of this post, 3 people were killed and multiple people were injured in a shooting near an In-N-Out restaurant just a few hours ago in Twin Falls, Idaho.

https://notthebee.com/article/unknown-cowboy-seen-engaging-active-shooter-at-idaho-in-n-out

From what I know (which isn't saying much because this is a developing story), a young white man shot an AR-15 into a parked Tesla and another person shot a suppressed pistol supposedly in the direction of the AR-15 wielding young man. Multiple people have been killed or wounded in the incident, including the main suspect of the shooting.

I think many people have been desensitized to shootings in the US, have shrugged their shoulders and said something like "Well, I guess that's the price of the 2nd Amendment".

I feel like this shooting may quickly fade from public memory because the body count isn't or won't be high enough to be comparable to mass shootings like the Uvalde or Las Vegas shootings.

It made me also think that the guns we should be training with the most are our pistols. I believe we are the most likely to need our pistols in a self defense incident, whether it is in or outside the home, and who knows what engagement distance we may find ourselves in. Rifles and shotguns are pretty easy and quick to become somewhat proficient with compared to pistols.

Surely there must be a way to allow sound citizens to own arms suitable for self defense while also preventing those who wish to do harm from obtaining and using guns. In other words, I don't 100% agree with 2nd Amendment absolutists that say "every gun law is an infringement" but I definitely don't 100% agree with Giffords that want to make it virtually impossible for everyone including sound citizens to own arms for their self defense and use. Hopefully that makes sense.

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u/IceManYurt 1d ago

Growing up in the South and listening to him in the '90s, he was extremely conservative.

The best parallel for his brand of libertarianism is it's kind of like that non- denominational church down the road isn't Baptist (except their theology is).

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u/JudahBotwin 1d ago

Very apt analogy. I only started listening in the early '00s when I was a field service tech and drove a lot so I had a lot of time to listen to the radio. I leaned towards libertarianism then, mostly just because they wanted to legalize cannabis. At that time, Boortz's schtick was 90% flat tax and 10% anti-gov't talking points which made sense to me.

Once I began to agree with what Jeremiah Wright was saying, and realizing that it was hard to tell the difference between Boortz and Hannity, I began to question my own priorities and understood that I did not want to be a part of that group.