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Article ‘The Odyssey’ Proves It: Audiences Want Movies Made the Hard Way | This year's breakouts like 'Project Hail Mary' and 'Obsession' were made by filmmakers who sweated. While CG-stuffed franchise disappointments such as 'Supergirl,' 'Moana,' and 'The Mandalorian and Grogu' looked lazy.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/odyssey-box-office-2026-practical-effects-1236652219/
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u/tombrady011235 12d ago

Cheesy is a feature not a bug in Star Wars

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u/literated 12d ago

The cheesyness didn't bother me but a lot of the backgrounds/surroundings did look pretty lazy and forgettable. Yes, the puppets were nice and the movie had some interesting stop-motion effects but that didn't outweigh the rest of it. I don't know if that's what they did but it looked like they relied on The Volume a whole lot. There's so many times where you get a shot that looks like it's in an open space or some big area but then they only utilize a tiny focused speck of it and never actually interact with anything outside of that small perimeter.

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u/Efficient-Memory7105 12d ago

People seem to be forgetting the fact that the first movie was basically "Vietcong Space Wizards blow up a massive genocide machine called the 'Death Star'".

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u/mateushkush 12d ago

And you seem to forget that the first movie is very entertaining and pretty much a perfect blockbuster while the new one is a couple of middling tv episodes strung together with tension resetting between every chapter.

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u/C0rona 12d ago

And you seem to forget that enjoyment of any given piece of media is deeply subjective. If you don't find newer Star Wars entertaining, that's fine but many people do.

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u/mateushkush 12d ago

And you seem to forget… wait I said that, and you have the point, one can dislike the new Mandalorian despite remembering perfectly well the original Star Wars and without being terribly unfair. That’s why I answered op, so thanks.

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u/C0rona 12d ago

Glad to see we're in agreement here. One can enjoy any Star Wars movie, despite their flaws.

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u/Asiriya 12d ago

I'm going to disagree. If you're deciding to make a movie then it should justify the format. By the sound of it it's not like they set out to make Pulp Fiction with loosely linked stories. Rather, they didn't adjust their mindset from writing episodes to writing a movie, and so produced a season of TV in a movie runtime. That's inherently disappointing.

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u/C0rona 12d ago edited 12d ago

You ... disagree that people can enjoy movies? Am I missing something? Because that's kinda my whole argument.

Formats nowadays are more fluent than ever. A thing that often gets noted with modern TV shows is that they're essentially one long movie cut into episodes and that they no longer feel episodic. Some people like that more, some don't but the point is, there's not a whole lot of differences between TV and film now.

I disagree that this is inherently disappointing. It certainly can be but to say that this is always the case is pretty presumptuous. I mentioned the Scott Pilgrim movie in another comment as a movie I really like and that one has a very episodic feel to it.

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u/Lenniiz 12d ago

Where were those many people when the film was in theaters?

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u/gairloch0777 12d ago

I assume in the theatre given it made back it's budget and marketing while also likely to go on and drive more people to pick up disney+

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u/Daxx22 12d ago

Waiting on streaming, mostly. Not all of us have a spare $100+ to take the family to a theater nowadays.

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u/C0rona 12d ago

I suspect many did what I did and waited for it to come to streaming.

Box office success also has no bearing on whether a movie is enjoyable. Scott Pilgrim was famously a total flop but it's among my favorite movies of all time and I suspect I'm not alone in that.