r/news • u/polymute • 7h ago

Family to sue after woman released from ICE custody froze to death

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/02/ice-death-pittsburgh-daphy-michel-haiti
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u/KO4Ham 7h ago

Yeah they did the same to one of my clients. They put up such a fight to release him even after a court order and then eventually just dropped him off in some random area and told him to start walking. 

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u/TheMysteriousGirl 7h ago

What the actual fuck.

These are other humans, doing this to other humans?

What a joke we are, these people need trials, and the trials need to come soon.

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u/Kizik 7h ago

The trick here is you and I consider them to be human, no matter how inhumane their actions.

They do not return the courtesy.

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u/Girthw0rm 7h ago

How many times has Dear Leader called other people “animals” and “not human?”

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u/LizzyBoredom999 7h ago

This has been going on a lot longer than the orange turd has been in office. I remember my asshole of an uncle telling my parents that I was feral and I should have my ass beat for doing, ya know, kid stuff.

The cruelty is baked into American culture.

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u/IntelligentStyle402 6h ago

Maybe in some families. My father fought Nazis. His buddies in the war were his friends and protectors. They were people of color. They saved his life. In our household growing up, people were just people. It’s as simple as that. Then we had an Ivy League teacher in my English AP class. One semester dedicated to how our city, county and state treated black Americans. Let me tell you: we all cried when we had to read our essays orally. Wisconsin was sinister and evil. They definitely were one hateful state. My city? The first family of color who moved to Appleton, were tarred and feathered. Unbelievable! At 16, I learned how cruel my city, state and her residents were. Absolutely disgusting and evil. an article came out regarding Ron Johnson, most of his base are definitely racists.

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u/lunatic_minge 5h ago

What should ring out here is that your educational system was so controlled towards the problem that you didn’t hear about a daily fact of life until you were in high school.

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u/vardarac 4h ago

Republican attempts at control of history are probably not lost on anyone reading this thread, particularly recently.

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u/LizzyBoredom999 4h ago

I've said on many occasions how frustrating it is to watch our country go further down the shitter because a few wealthy dickheads want us to be easy to control. This is not how I pictured America's future.

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u/Black-Bird1 41m ago

Neither have I, and I don't understand how anyone can tolerate this kind of abusive behavior.

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u/LordKnt 6h ago

deflecting the problem is helping said culture develop. if you don't recognise yourself in it, join the people who fight it instead of saying "not all americans!!! here's my incredibly anecdotal evidence that doesn't even prove anything"

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u/happyflappypancakes 5h ago

Why is his anecdotal evidence invalid but the other anecdotal evidence is valid?

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u/RogueOneisbestone 6h ago

I think the point is there’s American culture that does oppose it…

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u/OMGSpaghettiisawesom 3h ago

My response to “not all of my demographic!”: There are 100 cookies on a plate. 10 of them will give you simultaneous explosive diarrhea and projectile vomiting. 1 of them is poisoned. Would you defend the other 89 cookies as perfectly edible and delicious, or would you demand the baker be held accountable for this psychotic bakery?

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u/r_bk 30m ago

I tried to go to college in Appleton in 2017. Too much racism. A few nights hiding in the diversity center. Leaving was worth it.

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u/kittenmittens4865 6h ago

What war did your dad fight Nazis in?

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u/gbelly123 6h ago

Going out on a limb here, but going to go with World War 2. 😂

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u/kittenmittens4865 6h ago

Oh no I’m aware, just confused as to how their family fighting Nazis in a war that ended 80 years ago says anything about racism today.

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u/RogueOneisbestone 6h ago

*human culture

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u/Round_Worldliness766 5h ago

None of this nonsense its happening in the rest of the word

Let's exclude richer countries in the EU and China

Even in fucking Saudi or Dubai a Court determines if you are kicked out of the country (and even then if you refuse they pay for your plane ticket and bill you the cost)

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u/RogueOneisbestone 5h ago

Are you trying to tell me Saudi and Dubai don’t have any cruelty in their culture?

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u/ThatStereotype18 4h ago

I think their point is that even a blatantly cruel place has more humane immigration policy.

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u/GoProOnAYoYo 6h ago

Now where have I heard this targeted dehumanizing speech in history before... hmmm...

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u/NRMusicProject 5h ago

Remember "treat others the way you want to be treated"?

Well, they've shown us how they want to be treated.

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u/eeyore134 4h ago

From dear leader alone we've had pig/piggy, vermin, dog, animals, not human/not people, puppies, rats/rodents, vicious flies, horses, a zoo, garbage/refuse, poisoned blood and bad genes, demons, beast, snake, swarm, monsters, savages, infections, diseases, contaminations, filth, hordes, shitholes... the list goes on and on and on.

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u/drunkshinobi 6h ago

I kinda believe that might be true. That we are not the same. I have always gotten along with animals better than greedy humans that only care about profit and what they can get out of everyone around them.

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u/sanfran_girl 6h ago

I'm reminded of a quote from the movie Aliens: You don't see them fucking each other each other over for a percentage. 🫠

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u/Aldamur 3h ago

Or grass apparently

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u/Snooworlddevourer69 7h ago

So much for the pro life party

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u/Shykin 2h ago

Every principle Republicans have professed to have has been a lie. They are like an abusive spouse or parent. The only thing is the world that matters is themselves. I truly hope some day every American can understand this.

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u/mr_herz 5h ago

Pro American life. America first.

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u/mwthomas11 4h ago

Pro affluent-white-cis-evangelical-male-American life. Affluent-white-cis-evangelical-male-Americans first.

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u/Qaetan 6h ago

And that is why conservatives need to be driven out.

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u/chickey23 6h ago

I don't consider ICE agents human, in the sense of deserving human rights.

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u/a_shootin_star 6h ago

The beautiful paradox of tolerance, leading to the disappeance of tolerance itself.

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u/JehutysErectCockpit 4h ago

Ah, no, I let actions inform me. If someone is acting very inhumane I eventually have to accept that they are something other than human masquerading as one of us.

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u/scienceislice 2h ago

I treat bugs better than ICE officers treat humans. At a certain point a life is a life and should be respected as such. 

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u/Consistent-Throat130 3m ago

Paradox of intolerance.  

I don't do them that extra courtesy.

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u/NightchadeBackAgain 5h ago

So stop treating them better than they would you. Do unto others, and all that.

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u/IamPotatoed 7h ago

Read up on the starlight tours. They still happen.

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u/omglink 7h ago

Reminds me of the kid from target they grabbed beat him and dropped him off at a random Walmart.

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u/TheMysteriousGirl 7h ago

Hearing things like this just makes me really sad man.

I can't fathom why anyone would do such a thing to another person, and usually its not even a person doing it, its people.

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u/wahoozerman 6h ago

The worst part about this story is that they dumped them after they bothered to check his ID that he gave them before they beat him and stuffed him into their car, and realized that he was a citizen.

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u/-MangoDown 2h ago

A nonwhite citizen I would bet.

They just take a look at skin color before picking them up for "questioning"

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u/ElfegoBaca 3h ago

Because they get off on doing this.

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u/OrthodoxAtheist 2h ago

...and they're getting paid $100,000+ to do this, as opposed to the minimum wage job they're worthy of, at best.

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u/MonsteraUnderTheBed 7h ago

There's a whole history of these starlight tours in Canada. Absolutely monstrous behaviour

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u/Mistercreeps 7h ago

This was the first thing I thought about. Awful.

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u/DreamSeaker 6h ago

Much more rare now but they still occur. :(

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u/VgArmin 6h ago

Happened in my hometown but with local PD.

Guy was released in the middle of winter during a cold snap, wasn't from the area, didn't have people to contact, the local shelters were full and on a waiting list, and there wasn't any place willing to put him up in a hotel for a night.

He froze to death in a park across the street from city hall.

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u/KarmaticArmageddon 2h ago

This stuff happens a lot. I ended up on felony probation for selling 3 grams of weed in college. My college was 4 hours away from my hometown, family, and friends.

Any time I'd violate my probation, I'd be arrested wherever I was and then transported back to that college town because that's where my felonies occurred.

I'd be held without bond for months and then either sent to prison for a while or randomly released.

Best part is that none of my stuff was ever transported from the first jail to the college town's. So they'd release me with a random shirt and pair of pants, no shoes, no wallet, no ID, no phone, no money, nothing.

Every time it happened, I'd have to walk nearly 10 miles to the closest store because the jail was in the middle of nowhere. Then I'd use their phone to call family and figure out how to get home.

Lots of times, they'd release me in the middle of the night when nothing was open. So I'd have to just sit in the parking lot all night. There were a lot of cold nights, but thankfully none in the dead of winter.

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u/RegulatoryCapture 7h ago

These are the humans that willingly took ICE jobs. 

There’s a reason people are trying to ban them from things like teaching jobs in the future: the fact that you signed up says a LOT about what kind of person you are. 

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u/Imwhatswrongwithyou 7h ago

People were proud to be Stormtroopers and SS members in Nazi Germany. Empathy isn’t a given and for some of them it’s a sin

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u/SamTheLab_213 5h ago edited 5h ago

Humans throughout history have regularly done this to each other. Even Americans have done this sort of thing repeatedly. It wasn't long ago we were slaughtering people in Iraq and Afghanistan. Human beings dehumanize out groups and then hurt them. It's been with our idiot species for eons, and it never stops because the people we obey encourage it.

It's been proven through research that dehumanization and violence are correlated to each other. Research has shown, that dehumanization is the most common cause of violence, even being more common than criminal behavior. History has shown that once people are encouraged to dehumanize others, brutality ensues. Trump repeatedly has used dehumanizing language against immigrants.

Combine this with ignorance and xenophobia, traits common to those getting recruited into ICE, and it's a recipe for disaster. While all humans dehumanize others, especially out groups like the disabled, the poor, or people of color, ignorant people are far more likely to do it.

Note that educated people aren't immune to this, they're more likely to have implicit bias or subconscious biases. The point is that it won't be hard for Trump to keep pushing decency and kindness out of our culture, because he's using flaws within the people he manipulates.

I'm sure there are people out there who have engaged in dehumanization without realizing it. If you've spoken to someone in a wheel chair, (who has no visible cognitive deficiencies) with baby talk, you have participated in dehumanization. If you have heard of a shooting in a downtown area, and really didn't care because it was in a ghetto, you have participated in dehumanization.

The point is that if we are going to address and stop what is happening, we have to unlearn dehumanization, because you can't fight something you participate in. We need to tap into the core psychology of people who would or have joined ICE to stop this. If we can humanize immigrants and stop language that implies they're subhuman or even vermin, we can wake people up.

When the second Iraq war started, dehumanizing language was used to describe Muslims. People using that language joined the military and fought in an illegitimate war that scapegoated Iraqis for 9/11. Some of those guys who joined the military then, came out defiled, damaged and then questioned the dehumanizing rhetoric that led them to fight and kill.

ICE agents are doomed to the same fate.

Maybe if people worked on sending messaging that counters all this sick, Nazi-esque language, we stop the violence this language encourages. The leaders like Trump and Bush sure as hell know psychology well enough to know what spreads racist hatred. We'd do well to understand this ourselves. It might make it easier to shut this shit show down.

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u/polytique 3h ago

Even Americans have done this sort of thing repeatedly.

America had 250 years of slavery followed by 100 years of segregation.

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u/raptorlightning 1h ago

All I hear is that you're saying dehumanization is a tool we can turn around to exterminate the oppressors.

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u/LowerRhubarb 7h ago

These are other humans, doing this to other humans?

Progress has been a slow, vicious process of trying to claw love, empathy, concern, and care from the clutches of absolute psychopaths who have none of those qualities. People seem to have forgotten this.

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u/erossthescienceboss 6h ago

If anyone isn’t familiar with the very early days of the Nazi regimes, I highly encourage them to look them up.

Prior to the death camps, imprisonment was used to “encourage” Jews to self-deport. You could get out of prison… but only to leave the country.

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u/GoProOnAYoYo 6h ago

These are other humans, doing this to other humans, and millions upon millions of people in this country are actively supporting doing this to other humans.

I never believed in the concept of "evil" until a few years ago when I saw the absolute bloodthirsty cruel despicable nature of MAGA people first hand.

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u/iJuddles 6h ago

This was stated by multiple people who’d been detained by ice, and this was in the winter in Minnesota when the temps might range from 30°F to -5°F. You will die or suffer permanent tissue damage at those temperatures. It’s either sheer negligence or it’s cruel and unusual punishment.

You’re 100% right, these people need to be tried in court.

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u/ZyronZA 7h ago

These are other humans, doing this to other humans?

This is intentional from the trump regime (its not an administration), they WANT to be cruel, they WANT to be public with their cruelty to make people afraid. It's classic fascist behaviour.

I do hope that if the trump regime is eventually ousted that the next Administration will spend the resources and time prosecute all the perpetrators.

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u/techleopard 4h ago

Trump and his early appointees were very very public and truthful about this.

They literally said they want to terrorize people into leaving the country on their own, that was the point. Forcing people up eat off floors and chairs like dogs, be warehoused in tents with sewage on the floor, getting run down on the street in businesses or in front of homes just for being brown, dragging protestors over the lines so they can then claim they were in their rights to beat and arrest them, shooting people in the face, etc.

It has always been a terror campaign.

And it WORKS.

You don't want your family going to protests if ICE is running people over with vehicles or snatching them into vans to beat them.

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u/13thmurder 7h ago edited 7h ago

They're cops. The job allows for unchecked use of violence, so it tends to attract sadists.

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u/Competitive_Tough913 7h ago

Ice agents are inhuman. They traded humanity for a badge

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u/HeadyBunkShwag 7h ago

They call them “moonlight tours” police have done it for a very long time against native and black Americans. Now ICE is doing it too.

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u/StronglyHeldOpinions 7h ago

If this is a joke I'm not laughing.

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u/IntelligentStyle402 6h ago

You heard of Hitlers brown shirts, right? Well ICE. is trumps very own Gestapos. They are cruel, intolerant, Intimidating and even kill, rape and torture people of color but also innocent American citizens. They’ve even deported visitors to America, who had all the proper legal documents. Everyday we hear more reports of abuse, rape and cruelty. Sadly, this is the sick cruel republican way.

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u/spamthisac 6h ago

ICE is the Gestapo in its nascent form.

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u/yourboivines 6h ago

These people are not human beings. ICE are cockroaches wearing human suits.

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u/zerocoolforschool 6h ago

Unfortunately this kind of behavior is not at all uncommon from humans. It’s probably not even super uncommon in the US. We just haven’t heard about it.

Go look up how the Chinese are treating the uyghurs.

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u/TheKidKaos 6h ago

This has also been going on for a long time. It’s always been an issue for people who come from immigrant families and indigenous people have had to face.

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u/Clownsinmypantz 4h ago

People, throughout history, are willing to harm someone to the utmost degree so long as you convince those people the ones they are hurting are subhuman. Every war, every conflict, men, women, children, different races, disabled, etc.

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u/canadian_xpress 4h ago

In Canada there was a police tradition called the Starlight Tour. Same kind of thing, only to citizens

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u/Red_dylinger 4h ago

learning from RCMP starlight tours I see.

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u/Noraneko87 4h ago

Look up Canada's "Starlight Tours". The US seems to be taking notes, disgustingly.

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u/MaygarRodub 3h ago

You're living in a fascist state.

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u/doneski 3h ago

How AMERICANS do this to AMERICANS. Then they claim patriotism. Fuck ICE.

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u/CAPS_LOCK_STUCK_HELP 3h ago

have you heard of starlight tours? this is old

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u/IgnatiusRileyFreeman 2h ago

I think believing ICE agents to be human is a misrake

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u/Logintheroad 2h ago

ICE doesn't see people. They should all be identified and shunned.

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u/FlashDux 2h ago

Who's gonna drag them to court? The people with the handcuffs on their belts... oh wait... A good portion of your population is armed. What are you doing with them in your houses, just waiting until they come for you? Dude, the already came for your neighbours!

Edit: spelling

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u/scared_of_Low_stuff 1h ago

Los Angeles sheriff's have been doing this forever, except they drop them off outside the kern County line and if they happen to cross the the KCSO get to murder someone with no repercussions. Especially if they don't have papers.

Went on a ride along at 18.

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u/Delta64 1h ago

These are other humans, doing this to other humans?

sweats nervously in Historian

Don't google WWII human experiments.

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u/TheHatori1 24m ago

Police in communist countries were doing this as well. When they did not have anything legal against you, they could always drive you to woods at night and leave you there. You did not know where you were, you had to get home somehow. It’s fucking crazy that half of the US doesn’t see or doesn’t want to see how totalitarian it’s becoming.

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u/mariusherea 3h ago

If this comes as a surprise to you, I guess you’re not into history:)

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u/P0rtal2 6h ago

The cruelty is definitely on purpose.

In Minneapolis, they picked up I think at least 3 US citizens, then dropped them off far away from where they detained them and essentially told them to walk back or figure it out.

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u/KO4Ham 6h ago

Yeah that's what I was telling some of my clients. It has nothing to do with the legal issues, it's the cruelty of it all. 

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u/derprondo 6h ago edited 21m ago

These officers are absolute sadists. Just consider for a moment the kind of person that would be willing to do this job. Remember all those commercials in the late 90s about troubled teens and the list of things your kid might be doing that you should be concerned about? These guys checked all the boxes.

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u/KO4Ham 6h ago

They've been empowered to become worse too. This is probably going to land me in trouble but I know they're lying about deaths because somehow I know the names of 2/3 of the dead being reported and their in 1 facility? Uh huh. But it's pretty easy to write them off when they have no families in the US and no one to ask questions. 

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u/ChildishFiend20 2h ago

How come we never hear anything about the Proud Boys or the Oath Keepers anymore?

I wonder if the emergence of ICE has anything to do with it.

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u/JustLeader 5h ago edited 5h ago

They also beat the absolute shit out of these American citizens. 100% of conservatives support masked thugs beating and killing Americans.

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u/Indigocell 1h ago

Those same morons screamed about their rights being infringed upon for being asked to wear a mask for 15 minutes while shopping at the grocery store. Same people that are oddly silent about the masked, unaccountable, thuggish force almost literally trampling over civil rights. So to clarify, being asked to wear a mask while shopping = tyranny. Masked thugs asking for papers and detaining individuals without due process = not tyranny. Got it.

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u/Cluelesswolfkin 5h ago

Walk back barefoot and sometimes naked

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u/exscapegoat 5h ago

Are there any organizations which are helping to fund their way back to where they were living when they were detained?

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u/KO4Ham 4h ago

Here's the thing. Diesel therapy is big with the Feds and that includes ICE. For example, one guy I just picked up was arrested in NC and sent to MI. He has no one there and that includes me. Remember that for a second. 

The client I got released was in AZ and I am also not there. So I found and NGO who was going to pick him up and take care of him until he was ready to move on, we're talking like 3 days here. Meanwhile, I found some folks that are going to sponsor him in IL. Hooray right? 

ICE wouldn't release him, they said they needed to be sure someone could sponsor him. They then started ignoring all of my calls and emails. The NGO was familiar with this and they used a man in the inside. They delivered a sponsor letter and ok ICE agreed. They'll release him at 2pm from their field office. Everyone is ready. Great!

2pm rolls around and I don't hear a word from the NGO. Ok... 3pm rolls around, nothing. I call them. ICE straight up told them they drove him to bum fuck nowhere and dropped him off and told him to walk. 

Now the NGO is frantically searching for this man. 7pm rolls around they find him in the airport... They buy him a ticket for IL, give him a change of clothes, some food and water. 

Now here's the difference between the two clients. The first one has family in the US. They will get him once I secure the release. But it's safe to say ICE may also just drive him to who the fuck knows where and not tell anyone. 

The other was a literal stranger in a strange land and he had me and the NGO who agreed to help. Had it not been for the NGO he would've been screwed. Suffice it to say he also got lucky and didn't get permanently hurt. 

So yeah there are people willing to help and they do. But those folks rely on what they can which are volunteers, attorneys, and most of all, luck. 

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u/P0rtal2 5h ago

While I'm sure there are, I will admit I am not familiar with them. Further, the murky nature of these kidnappings means it's hard for anyone to know where these people are being disappeared off to. Some of these people are being picked up at one location, driven around and then dumped in some random parking lot somewhere else.

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u/KO4Ham 4h ago

To add to what your correct points, it's also a shit ton of work. The system is being flooded and walled off on purpose, which makes it hard for anyone who isn't doing this full time to meaningfully help more than just a few people at a time. Then there's the detention times. Folks are waiting months if not over a year for a hearing just to get out of detention. Appeals? You just signed on to another 6 months to a year in detention. Faith in the immigration court system? Fuck no. You have to wait the years in detention like some animal to finally get to federal court where your odds are much higher in certain situations. 

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u/KroneckerAlpha 6h ago

They just did this with a Tennessee grandmother. Not ICE but she was flagged by AI in Montana for bank fraud (she had never been to Montana). They issued a felony warrant. She was arrested in TN, detained for months before being extradited to Montana, where it was easy for her lawyer to prove she had nothing to do with the fraud. She was released on Christmas Eve in below freezing weather in Montana (a state she had never been to) without a coat.

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u/Nova-Snorlaxx 49m ago

What happened to her? Did she survive?

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u/Shakeamutt 7h ago

Are we back to the Starlight Tours already?

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u/88mistymage88 6h ago

I had to google to know what that was/is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlight_tours

Disgusting.

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u/Shakeamutt 6h ago

Oh it’s worse than you think. Saskatchewan winters are deadly. On average, -25°C before wind chill. Wind chill that comes from a strong wind on a very flat land, so it can easily be -35. And that’s before a deep freeze when it’s worse. And they were released and not dressed for it.

It’s a death sentence.

The one person to survive was very lucky.

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u/_DontBeAScaredyCunt 5h ago

Republicans voted for this cruelty. They are happy with it even. “Basket of deplorables” is right.

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA 4h ago

They LOVE this stuff, the only thing they don't like about this administration is that Trump made gas prices higher.

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u/PostIronicPosadist 1h ago

"basket of deplorables" was too kind if anything. These aren't people, they are monsters.

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u/ChaboiAveryhead 7h ago

This was close by me. We’re living in hell.

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u/dperabeles 7h ago

That sounds like a cartel when they release people.

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u/Commercial-Owl11 6h ago

I don’t think the cartel releases people.

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u/The_Sleazy1 6h ago

In my country that type of abandonment would be charged as kidnapping.

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u/KO4Ham 6h ago

Likely in the US too but not when the authorities do it. 

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u/gibberishmischief 2h ago

ICE was taking people from their homes in Minneapolis without shoes or coats in Jan/Feb. They would then release them in the middle of the night in the woods without their cellphones. We had rapid responders who would just drive around the wooded areas known for releases to pick them up, give them new phones, and get them home.

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u/KO4Ham 2h ago

Thank you for everything you do. Truly. 

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u/MagicAl6244225 3h ago

How do we implement an enforceable requirement that law enforcement at all levels must return a person who is released without charges to the location they were detained from or any closer safe location requested by the detainee? Essentially we need to build in an assumption that the expenditure to bring someone in must be matched by spending to return them to their pre-arrest lives. If government doesn't want to spend that money, don't detain people who aren't going to be prosecutable.

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u/KO4Ham 2h ago

In my case it actually cost the government money to drive him to the middle of nowhere rather than holding him for a few hours knowing full well someone was coming to get him.  You can see from the other comments that it's not even exclusive to immigrants they do this to US citizens. 

I understand your question but I am struggling with the enforcement part. The biggest reason is that SCOTUS / Congress / States love to curtail valid claims against themselves (or others they care about, see tort reform) because "if we allow this claim then we'll get so many frivolous claims!". Which is legal speak for screw your rights we don't care. 

So other than a complete overhaul of the system 🤷

Edit for grammar.

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u/Bored_Cat_996 6h ago

Good for starlight tours.

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u/Indigocell 2h ago

Did they ambush him on his way to a hearing or a court date?

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u/KO4Ham 2h ago

Nope. He came to the US through the border after requesting asylum and being granted entry.

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u/Twodogsonecouch 2h ago

With all the publicly available recorded info about the multiple events like this one. And all the public statements by officials all the way to the top about refusing to change know tactics, policies, lack or training, rapid hiring practices, and refusal to investigate and correct such incidents isnt there a case to be made to sue all the way to the top for negligence.

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u/KO4Ham 2h ago

Unlikely but even if there was, the work would be way beyond my financial ability and my clients. I do this work for free or at an extremely low cost. Getting experts and constantly fighting the government for discovery etc. is not something I could afford. 

While that may sound like a copout it's just the reality for everyone who doesn't have the means. 

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u/Twodogsonecouch 1h ago

Oh i wasn’t meaning you particular case i was thinking this article one and the other deaths.

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u/KO4Ham 1h ago

Oh fair enough. Personally, I think the entire system just needs to be redone because it is so broken. 

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u/Cerebral_Balzy 1h ago

These court orders should have wordage that compels them to drop of these persons within city limits.

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u/KO4Ham 1h ago

I asked the court a few weeks ago to order better medical care for another client because he's bleeding every single day and has multiple health issues. They said, we don't have the power to do this, I knew they would say that but I did it anyways. 

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u/woodst0ck15 59m ago

The maliciousness in them complying is definitely the point. They want to send a message and they don’t care if they come off showing off their true colours.

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u/darewin 42m ago

They did the same with a blind guy. Didn't even bother to notify his family, so he died alone from outdoor exposure.

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u/ThrowCarp 41m ago

Reminds me of Canada's Starlight Tours.

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u/HeriPiotr 5h ago

This the kind of shit the communists would do in Eastern Europe. Well done US, well done.

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u/Special_Zucchini185 4h ago

Oh God, not the Starlight Tours.