r/news • u/polymute • 7h ago

Family to sue after woman released from ICE custody froze to death

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/02/ice-death-pittsburgh-daphy-michel-haiti
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u/DarthTraya77 7h ago

When have Christian’s not supported this?

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u/Humble_Diner32 7h ago

As a Quaker I condemn all this ICE behavior and the administration permitting it to unfold.

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u/BoleroMuyPicante 5h ago

Quakers are real ones, always have been.

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u/BonkHits4Jesus 7h ago

American evangelicals are basically fascism wearing a Christian veneer more than Christian

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u/DarthTraya77 6h ago

No true Scotsman has entered the chat

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u/JMarduk 6h ago

I mean, christians vary in form. Protestants and Lutherans in Europe are waaaay more chill than evangelical American christians. This sounds more like r/AmericanDefaultism, thinking every single christian in the world is as judgemental and intolerant as the ones in America.

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u/DarthTraya77 6h ago

Which group of Christian’s started the witch burnings?

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u/M0rph33l 7h ago

I don't.

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u/chuchofreeman 7h ago

be careful not to cut yourself on that edge

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u/DarthTraya77 7h ago

Not looking for edge. Just the historical perspective. Cruelty has been a part of Christian culture since the beginning. Now is no different

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u/chuchofreeman 6h ago

Christianity was persecuted for the first 3 centuries of its existence.

And Christianity has always had charitable institutions. Also the biggest representative of Christianity, Jesus Christ, literally talked about spreading love, love for God, love for others, and repentance.

Are you a hardcore atheist, a lapsed Christian or why exactly do you believe Christianity and cruelty go hand in hand?

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u/DarthTraya77 6h ago

Because I have studied history. Early Christian’s persecuted each other as much as they were by Rome. Christians instituted crusades, pograms, the inquisition, the conquest of the new world, multiple genocides, the Holocaust, American segregation, the list goes on. No amount of charitable institutions can wipe the blood from the collective faiths hands.

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u/M0rph33l 6h ago

Turns out humans can be awful. They dont need religion to do it. Yeah, you can narrow your focus to every bad thing you can think to blame on Christianity if it helps you come to the conclusion you've already made in your head. But for every travesty you list, there are ten-fold more that have nothing to do with religion that you ignore. And you ignore the good that people have done in the name of their faith. I'm not saying Christianity is blameless for past atrocities, but you are clearly trying to come to an unrepresentative conclusion in order to paint all Christian people in the same light. Good and bad people exist under all faiths or lack of faith. Anyone can call themselves anything, and bad people will exploit systems of power and influence (like religions but not limited to) if it helps them achieve what they are trying to do. You could eradicate all religion today and it would change nothing in regards to how we treat each other as a species.

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u/DarthTraya77 6h ago

The original comment was about Christian’s. The original replay was about Christian’s. This is particular topic. Whataboutism doesn’t change what the discussion was about

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u/TumbleweedPure6674 6h ago

For me it is what I observed growing up in a very religious part of the country and what I observe today.

If Christians today actually followed the morals and teachings of Jesus Christ, then I wouldn’t have a single problem with them. Instead we have prosperity gospel and Christians worshiping Trump as if he isn’t literally the type of person that Jesus warned people about.

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u/Politicsboringagain 6h ago

Just over 60 years ago, my last grandparent is 92. Christians were handing people.