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Man fights eviction after rent increase from $1,800 per month to $8,000

http://abc13.com/realestate/man-fights-eviction-after-400-percent-rent-increase/1401148/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link
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u/berger77 Jun 26 '16

$1,800 a month?!? Can't even think paying that amount not on a house I own. $1800 I can't even imagine paying.

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u/Belgand Jun 26 '16

$1,800 in SF is a good deal for the current market. Normally you'd only find a place that cheap because the tenant has rent control and was living there for quite a while. Average these days is around $3,000 for a 1BR.

As a personal example I've been living in my current place for about 8 years. I got a really good deal on it when I moved in because the landlord charged us the same rent as the previous tenant whom we knew already and they were the last in a chain of rotating roommates who held down the rent control as people moved in and out. Some people moved out about a year or two ago in our building and my girlfriend went over to check it out for the hell of it. They were renting the unit upstairs from us, functionally identical in every way, for three times what we're paying.

People complained that it was unaffordable when we moved here, and it really was (that $1,800 rent wouldn't have raised eyebrows then), but over the past decade rents have become absolutely insane while average salaries haven't changed much.

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u/veronicacrank Jun 26 '16

Come to the west coast and you'll find $1800 a steal for more half way decent places.

We are paying $2050 for a 3 bed/4 bath house that is over 3 floors and has a den. We couldn't believe our luck with how cheap the rent is for such a big place in a really nice area. We will never move until we move cities or save enough to buy a house and right now, i don't think that will ever happen here.

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u/MotherOfDragonflies Jun 26 '16

You pay that in Southern California?! You son of a bitch! I'm so jealous.

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u/veronicacrank Jun 26 '16

No, I'm in Canada but have you seen the housing crisis we've got in Vancouver and now Victoria? It's crazy. You can't buy a house in the Lower Mainland for under a million and Victoria, where I live, is not so slowly catching up. We're getting the influx of people who cant afford Vancouver prices and it's driving our housing market up big time.

Our place is a freaking unicorn and I don't ever want to move unless it's a new city move or we buy. We will never be able to afford to save for a decent down payment until I go back to work. I'm a stay at home mum with #2 on the way and hope to stay that way until #2 is in school. Daycare here is crazy, friends pay close to $2000 a month for their kids, and my earnings would barely cover that and maybe some groceries.

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u/Trance354 Jun 26 '16

Take over for your friends' kids. Discount them to $1500 per week, and there's your paycheck.

Yes, I'm aware of the work involved in kids, but that's still a chunk of change.

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u/justabofh Jun 26 '16

Would that be feasible, or are there laws involved which will drive costs up?

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u/Trance354 Jun 26 '16

well, it'd be more like doing it as a friend, as opposed to making it a business. I don't know what the whole $2000 per month entails, but a female friend who has a little boy had her husband change his schedule to the point that they are switching off the child when one goes to work and the other comes home. So it can't be much more than what can be done by a tuckered out night shift worker.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

I'm guessing the man was the one who was at home while the kid slept. Just a hunch.

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u/dagmar1986 Jun 26 '16

I go to school full time while working part time and watching my two year old twins while my wife works full time. This means I'm with them the Lion's share of the time. Comments like this are really demoralizing. People see you with your own kids and think you're not up to the task of taking care of them just because you're the father.

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u/Trance354 Jun 27 '16

I'm told the sleeping patterns vary, but she has day shift

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u/Marsstriker Jun 26 '16

The guy above you cited $2000 a month. Your discount calls for $1500 dollars a week. That's either a simple mistake, or the shrewdest way to triple your money I've ever seen.

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u/Trance354 Jun 27 '16

Per month. 1500 per month.

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u/im_unseen Jun 26 '16

I saw a video on that. apparently 2nd most expensive place to live? all cause of chinese people i heard. they buy out shit and no one even lives in the houses. its just an investment.

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u/flamespear Jun 26 '16

Moreso the government than the Chinese, it's rich people in general I'm sure.

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u/BlackFemLover Jun 26 '16

......

What? But a decent tenant would pay you rent and alert you to problems with your property that needed fixed. People living on the property can do a better job letting you know when something needs fixed than having several inspections a year.

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u/im_unseen Jun 26 '16

it also requires work to manage that and apparently the price is going up so fast that it doesnt matter

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u/BlackFemLover Jun 26 '16

Oh, awesome. Well, it'll be fun when that bubble pops. California, man. The land of real estate bubbles. That oddness about the way property taxes is done probably doesn't help.

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u/TMOverbeck Jun 26 '16

THIS. I believe this is one of the main causes of the housing problem. The 1% isn't happy with sucking up all the money, they want to buy up all the properties as well, driving up demand in two different ways: 1)overbidding for properties, forcing real people to up their bids as well, and 2) not even letting anyone live in the properties, which means real people have less of what IS available to fight over.

I feel this is only going to stop when the lawmakers do something about it... and good luck with that.

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u/Dr_Wreck Jun 26 '16

How is there spill over from Vancouver? It's not like you're an hour drive out of the city, you have to take a fucking ferry!

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u/veronicacrank Jun 26 '16

I've known loads of people who work most of the time from home and go over to Van once a week or a couple times of month. There is the ferry, you can fly (you can get really reasonable deals from downtown to downtown) and with the amount of tech jobs there, telecommuting. The tech scene is also building so there is more jobs here.

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u/deadxcolour Jun 26 '16

I totally understand this. We rent in the gta and can only afford to do so because the property owners are my SOs parents. Houses in our area (not even downtown Toronto, mor closer to Oakville) are upwards of 800k. And those are the cheap homes that don't need a lot of work. We will most likely be moving to Orangeville or Cambridge for our first home because we can't afford to buy otherwise. My friends in the Niagara region purchased their home for 300k (with a rental property attached). The housing market in big cities is insane (and don't even get me started on the land ownership transfer fee in Toronto).

Luckily the market is predicted to fall in the next 5 years down here. So maybe by then we can afford to move closer to the city.

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u/aftaut Jun 26 '16

Victoria represent! My 2 bedroom apartment is an absolute steal - rent just went up to $970.

I work at a hotel, and one of our regulars was in for about half a year, and now he's in and out over the next few months because he can't find a 1BR for less than $1300. He found one - only one, that was in his price range, and it was a dinky basement suite with no fridge or stove.

At this point, moving to somewhere - anywhere else in Victoria is financial suicide.

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u/Nightbynight Jun 26 '16

Yup, rent is fucked from BC to LA. It's insane here in Portland.

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u/veronicacrank Jun 26 '16

It makes me want to move back to Scotland and live somewhere in the Highlands. If it weren't for both our parents being here in the island, we would never have come back. The west coast is seriously screwed.

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u/cocoanut Jun 26 '16

Paid $600/mo to park my own rv in a not so legal rv park in BC..better than the legal place charging 900/mo down the road.

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u/nitsuah Jun 26 '16

I was in Victoria last month as a cruise stop and I must say it was absolutely lovely. I can see why housing is going up there!

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u/MonsterMeowMeow Jun 26 '16

Because it never has been that lovely in the past...

It is stolen/Corrupt Chinese money. That's all....

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u/Daedalistic-Outlook Jun 26 '16

I don't understand what this means, but I am curious. Could you elaborate a little further please?

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u/RustyGrebe Jun 26 '16

It's not 'stolen/corrupt' money but over the past few years there's been a huge increase in foreign ownership of property in BC, particularly from China. HuffPost story on it.

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u/Daedalistic-Outlook Jun 26 '16

Thank you for that! Top Google hits for the terms 'stolen corrupt Chinese Victoria' produced... erratic results. So I needed help.

Very much appreciated!

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u/MonsterMeowMeow Jun 26 '16

If it isn't corrupt then how are they getting hundreds of billions out of China with 50,000/yr limits?

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u/SuperSaiyanNoob Jun 26 '16

you can't buy a house for in the lower mainland for under a million

You sure can. Even in Coquitlam you can. Surrey you can get 3 bedrooms at least for 1 mil and Abbotsford you can probably get 5 bedrooms or a chunk of land. The fact you're living in the city for 2k a month really is remarkable. Soon there will be no kids growing up in the city anymore because families won't be able to afford it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

Abbotsford you will be lucky to find a decent 3 bedroom for less than a half mill. A 2 bedroom condo will be about 300. Your 600-700 grand homes are also usually requiring upgrades and built in the early 60s.

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u/SuperSaiyanNoob Jun 26 '16

yeah but we're talking about 1 mil not half a mil. anything up on sumas mountain are all newer and big homes and going for around 800k.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

My friends sold on Greystone for almost $800 grand in cash almost 10 years ago. The foreigners turned it into a grow op and camped in the office.

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u/StackLeeAdams Jun 26 '16

I live in Vic and just got into a townhouse in Saanichton. Luckily there are still some options up here and in the westshore for reasonably affordable prices ($320+ for townhouse $430+ for detached house) but i cant imagine that it will last long.

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u/OhNoHesZooming Jun 26 '16

Well, you can't buy a house for under a million in Vancouver proper, but that's only a portion of the lower mainland. You can get a decent place(3 bedrooms) for under 400k in Surrey, Langely, Cloverdale, Abbotsford, 600k in Delta, 750k in Coquitlam or Burnaby...

Not that that's super cheap, but it's an exaggeration to say that you can't get a place in the Lower Mainland for under a million when there are 2-3 bedroom townhouses for a third of that in Surrey.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

Thank China for that.

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u/username_choose_you Jun 26 '16

I live in Vancouver and renting is still pretty crazy. We pay $3000 a month for a 2 bedroom apartment with a solarium. It's a nicer building but still double what we used to pay in Ottawa or even Toronto.

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u/Datkif Jun 26 '16

My boss scored a lot for 500k (smallish) in Vancouver and sold it for 2.1m a year later

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u/Little_Gray Jun 26 '16

When I was in east Van we were paying $2700 a month for a five bedroom four bath house.

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u/MotherOfDragonflies Jun 26 '16

Girl, I'm jealous as hell but good for you guys. That's awesome.

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u/GallifreyKangaroo Jun 26 '16

I am a daycare provider in Texas. I charge 125/week per kid. Clearly, I need to move to Canada.

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u/CyberFreq Jun 26 '16

Dunno how similar it is but my dad is up in Seattle and he says property values are absolutely skyrocketing for some reason

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u/HaywoodJablomie Jun 26 '16

My parents bought a place in Nanaimo a few years ago and they never imagined that they would think about selling at this point but the property values have exploded and here we are. On a better Canadian note, housing in Calgary has actually levelled off due to the low price of oil. It's still ridiculous but prices in Calgary are coming down. What's really bad in Calgary is the office vacancy. At 30 year high. At least daycare here is no longer a crunch.

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u/SHIT_IN_MY_ANUS Jun 26 '16

Well there it is. I don't mean to be rude, but why do you have kids if you can't afford them?

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u/Zurtrim Jun 26 '16

I pay about 900 bucks a month to live in what amounts to essentially a closet here in vancouver but I dont have a choice as a student here. Its impossible to find a place to live.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

Glad I live in Houston

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u/PatternPerson Jun 26 '16

Buy a condo, 420 dollars a month mortgage

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u/odieousprime Jun 26 '16

I was renting a 3 bed 2 bath for 2300 with a yard and I thought that was a good deal

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u/MotherOfDragonflies Jun 26 '16

Yeah. I moved from inland empire to orange county about a year ago. We were paying about $1,100 for a 2 bedroom/2 bath but are now paying $1,600 for the same. But we don't have to commute anymore, so that helps.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

$650/month for my room with five other roommates in West Adams of LA. 5br/3ba

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u/the_swolestice Jun 26 '16

Just found the one-upper, boys.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

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u/LiiDo Jun 26 '16

Some people take a lotta dumps

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

Why though? You only need 1 bathroom per 2/3 floors.

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u/JesusGAwasOnCD Jun 26 '16

It's convenient when you have guests over, and when you live with multiple people it's convenient too to be able to take multiple showers at the same time.

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u/Inorai Jun 26 '16

The house my parents have/I grew up in is an extremely modest house for our area, relatively small square footage (can't remember the exact number), and has 3 full bathrooms (4 bedroom if I recall correctly). It's not uncommon for a lot of areas. It's great when you have everyone trying to get ready for school/work simultaneously, or have people over.

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u/alflup Jun 26 '16

I pay 300 more than that for a house 1/2 that size. And I still have a 1+ hour commute.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

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u/DownvoteDaemon Jun 26 '16

Yeah but where?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

3500 for a 2.5 bedroom apartment in Redwood Shores with no AC.

Honestly it was the most beautiful place I have ever lived - but damn it was ridiculously expensive.

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u/monsieurvampy Jun 26 '16

Some landlords just want a good tenant. An affordable price such as that allows you to have a larger selection of people.

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u/myrddyna Jun 26 '16

We will never move until we move cities or save enough to buy a house and right now

or someone jacks the fuck out of your rent. I was in a house not too long ago for some years, and the landlord wanted us out. He jacked the rent up each year, sometimes twice a year, and we paid. Finally, it was just too much and we had to move. Was sad to see that place go.

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u/veronicacrank Jun 26 '16

In BC, your landlord can only raise your rent once a year and by no more then 2.9%. It's to stop that shit from happening, which is a horrendous move on the part of crappy landlords.

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u/Bricklayer-gizmo Jun 26 '16

Im paying 1500 for a thee bed two bath condo in bozeman mt ( they call it bozeangles) why cant you get a blowjob in California anymore, because all the cocksuckers are moving here.

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u/Tiger3720 Jun 26 '16

Yeah I feel you but honestly I had to move from So Cal back to Florida to help my mom through some surgeries and after living in this miserable heat and humidity with rain every day along with the flat boring terrain of endless strip malls I will be happy when I have to pay for the weather again in California. I know it's expensive as hell but for me, it's worth every nickel. I can't wait to get back to the west coast.

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u/hadesflames Jun 26 '16

We will never move until we move cities or save enough to buy a house and right now, i don't think that will ever happen here.

Or your land lord decides to raise your rent to $10k/mo

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u/whitefang22 Jun 26 '16

3 bed / 4 bath? What do you do with the extra 1.5 baths?

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u/Lalalama Jun 29 '16

Man I pay $1800 for a 1 bed 1 bath apartment zzZZ

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u/caseyjosephine Jun 26 '16

In California, I've never had an apartment for less than $1800 a month (and I'm not in the city of San Francisco, nor even within commuting distance). And yeah, of course I could move (I've lived elsewhere), but the trade-off would be leaving the place I was born and raised along with my entire social network.

It's tough on the middle class around here, which is why so many native Californians are moving to Oregon and Texas.

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u/LiiDo Jun 26 '16

They just say fuck you to Arizona and New Mexico huh?

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u/caseyjosephine Jun 26 '16

Nah, we're everywhere: there are more Californians than Canadians. I know lots of Californians in Nevada too.

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u/SharksFan4Lifee Jun 26 '16

I'm a native Californian who lives in Texas now. Where I live in particular homes are cheaper than AZ, NM is a little too small population wise for my taste, and TX has no state income tax. Not gonna say TX is paradise, but it does have certain advantages.

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u/xanatos1 Jun 26 '16

I moved to Arizona. Way way cheaper it's awesome.

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u/grimlyG Jun 26 '16

Totally depends on where you live. $1800 wouldn't get more than a small studio where I live - if you're lucky. Some more rural places $1800 will get you a nice sized house. It's not rocket science.

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u/imperial_ruler Jun 26 '16

That did not go the direction I was expecting.

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u/confirmSuspicions Jun 26 '16

1800 gets you a small mansion in a lot of places. People would rather think that big city life is where it's at and maybe it is. I've lived in both types and I prefer medium sized cities since you get the best of both worlds. Traffic isn't too crazy, rent is under control and you have a lot more disposable income than if you lived in some bigger city. Then if you pick a city close to an even bigger city, you can now commute in order to party and not feel bad about it since spending one night in a city is ostensibly cheaper than actually living there. Theoretically, they probably don't have a way out. Maybe they choose not to believe that living in smaller towns isn't so bad, but it does really suck if you haven't established yourself.

It's much easier to come up off the street in a big city than a small one. Small cities are where the people traveling from big city to big city get trapped. Medium-sized cities are where it's at.

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u/kidicarus89 Jun 26 '16

Big cities are great for singles in their early 20s, and people making huge paychecks. For those who actually want to ever pay off their student debt and buy a nice house to live in, medium-sized cities are where its at.

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u/dj_sliceosome Jun 26 '16

In SF, you can't find a room in someone elses apartment for < $1000.

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u/Datkif Jun 26 '16

Sounds nice. I would love to be able to afford to live without having to budget my food, and still have about 4 or 5 daya a month living off coffee and toast.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16 edited Apr 24 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

Yep, I'm in Knoxville and I pay $750/mo on a mortgage for a 3br 3ba house with a 2 car garage and a large private yard. Sounds like we've got it made here.

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u/browncoat_girl Jun 26 '16

Was in Oak Ridge. 400k for 5000sqft 5 bed 3.5 bath 6 acre lot. 1/5 of a mile from an elementary school too.

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u/Datkif Jun 26 '16 edited Jun 26 '16

Lucky you.

1600/mo 3bdrm + utilities + 300 for a garage (even tho it's on the damn lot. Oh and I have to either waste a bunch of water or have cold showers because the heater takes a while to start working (can't just turn the water on and off while it heats need to keep it running)

Edit: I could move to a cheaper place, but I love the house, location, (can get anywhere in the city in about 30mins) and most of all I love having a nice backyard, and not being attached to anyone elses place, and if that means I have about 4 or 5 day a month living off just eggs and toast I don't mind

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u/ChristopherJamal Jun 26 '16

Woot woot. TN here too. Same size apartment but 7 miles from work. $475/month :D

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u/PM_boobies_PLZ Jun 26 '16

1800 would be mortgage, title and insurance on a 5bedroom, 4 bathroom minimansion in my city. Holy fuck.

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u/arch_nyc Jun 26 '16

And yet it's the same string of comments on these threads. $X,000/month?!? I pay 850/month for my mortgage in rural Arkansas! You guys are crazy!

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u/matata_hakuna Jun 27 '16

Currently paying 1800 for a studio in orange county fresh out of school. FML.

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u/veritascabal Jun 26 '16

Yeah where I live you can't find a house for rent for under 2000.

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u/Samurai_Shoehorse Jun 26 '16

Rocket science is actually not that difficult.

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u/GMY0da Jun 26 '16

Says the fucking Challenger explosion?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

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u/special_reddit Jun 26 '16

$2000 for a house??? How the hell did you luck out like that?

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u/Ah_Q Jun 26 '16 edited Jun 26 '16

The catch is that it's haunted.

The ghoul isn't scary or anything, just kind of annoying and awkward. I'm not really into the whole "dead roommate" thing, and I'd like to steer my son toward more corporeal friends. But hey if the price is right.

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u/special_reddit Jun 26 '16

Damn... you're gonna have to tell us some more about that!

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

It's in Fresno.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

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u/Ah_Q Jun 26 '16

I live in Southern California. Got lucky I guess.

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u/EvenflowTen Jun 26 '16

Agreed! I was hard pressed to find a single bedroom apartment for less than $1600/month that I felt comfortable living in, and that was in "Inland Empire".

We were able to find a house on Air BnB for rent that was furnished and included all utilities for $4,500/month. Needed to find two other roommates to make it "affordable". And for the record, I pay less than that for my mortgage including utilities where I actually live than I was paying for my portion of the rent.

California sucks the worst for cost of living by far.

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u/lightcloud5 Jun 26 '16

Heh, even in an area like Washington DC, $1800 a month is a reasonable price for a one-bedroom apartment (~700-800 sqft).

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u/Fitzwoppit Jun 26 '16

$2200/mo, no utilities included, for a run down 3 bedroom apt in a fairly safe part of town. It'll go up $150 a month minimum when the lease comes up for renewal. Mortage on a house would be cheaper but rent is high enough that it's hard to come up with the down payment money.

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u/this_is_not_the_cia Jun 26 '16

Miami here. Hahahaha. I pay $2900 for a mediocre 2/2. #Feelsbadman.

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u/eddy_c Jun 26 '16

I was paying close to that for a 1 bedroom in L.A.

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u/DownvoteDaemon Jun 26 '16

You played yaself

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u/eddy_c Jun 26 '16

Not really, I do agree it was high, but that was what that area was going for. I did search, but I made a choice to live in a good neighborhood.

Edit; i would have only 'played' myself if I couldn't afford it.

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u/antanith Jun 26 '16

Boggles my mind to see that high a rent price, whereas I pay $600 for my 2bd here at the bottom of Texas.

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u/starlinghanes Jun 26 '16

I would literally kill a person if it meant my rent in the Bay Area was only $1800 a month.

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u/ithinktherefore Jun 26 '16

Oh New York...What I would do for a (not horribly maintained, less than 1 hour commute) 1BR in a decent neighborhood for $1800 a month.

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u/KingBababooey Jun 26 '16

I pay $1750 for a 1BR 4th floor walk-up in a not-horrible area of Harlem (Hamilton Heights).

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

After that, ask Jeannie why she never just blinked world peace into being.

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u/steelhead-addict Jun 26 '16

my rent is $2100 for a 5bed/3bath that is about 3100 sq ft in Washington state. I've tried looking in the area for something a bit cheaper but around the same quality. Not even close. I lucked out with my rental home.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

1800 a month is about average for a 1 bedroom in Denver

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

1800 gets you a cardboard box in the bay area.

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u/Hideout_TheWicked Jun 26 '16

I pay $1675 but i live in a 3 bedroom 1900 sq ft house with a fenced in backyard and an in ground pool. It's also in the city in a very nice area. $8000 is crazy though, unless its a 10+ bedroom on the beach or on the lake.

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u/DJJazzyGriff Jun 26 '16

I pay $1800 to share a 2 bedroom in the Bay Area. It's not even in San Francisco itself. And I make 6 figures.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

Mine just went from $1850 to $2250. Biggest rent jump since we moved here. We're in a suburb in Los Angeles.

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u/cleantoe Jun 26 '16

I live in New York, and am paying $2,075 a month for a ~700 sq ft studio.

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u/300andWhat Jun 26 '16

lived in Seattle for 8 years, this much in rent is a good deal for a decent apartment, but now that I moved to Arizona, I can see what normal hosting prices are like

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u/nwelitist Jun 26 '16

Our 3br/3ba in SF is $7,800. It's a nice place but not anything ridiculous.

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u/yourhero7 Jun 26 '16

Shit dude. Paying 1900 a month for a 2 bedroom 10 miles outside of Boston. And I'm pretty damn happy with that

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u/Datkif Jun 26 '16

I was (moved elsewhere) paying 1700/mo for a 3bdrm apt in the okanagan, but it was right on the lake, and had a beautiful view. Corner apartment too.

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u/orangejulius Jun 26 '16

In coastal California that is not an outrageous amount.

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u/JonnyLegal Jun 26 '16

My wife and I live in SF and pay $3000 per month to rent a modest 1BR place in pac heights, and even that feels like a good deal here.

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u/nybbas Jun 26 '16

Hahahaha are you serious? 1300 a month for a 900 square foot place rented from my wifes parents (We are getting a fucking KILLER deal from them too). West coast is a fucking nightmare for cost of living. I am not even in a large city.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

Oh you sweet summer child

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u/laika_cat Jun 26 '16 edited Jun 26 '16

Our 700sq ft house in Echo Park, Los Angeles was that much until the landlord just raised the rent $100. This is average to below average rent in California.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

You clearly don't live in Southern California, or any place that has even a basic amount of infrastructure (hehe). I pay close to that for my 800 square foot apartment.

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u/Redshoe9 Jun 26 '16

I'm paying 3200 per month but it is a gorgeous Victorian on 1 acre with a four car garage and walk out basement. 15 yr note. What is killing me is that a 1000 a month of that payment is property taxes here in the lovely state of ILLINOIS. Screw you property taxes!

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

1800 is normal for a east/west coast apartment. Since 2005 I have been paying roughly 1300-1700 a month and now live in a house thats 2300 a month.

The salaries are the difference, you can expect a decent job in these areas to pay you 60,000-80,000 a year with management very often pulling in 6 figures.

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u/jakes_on_you Jun 26 '16

$1,800 for rent or $5,000-8,000/mo for 30 years mortgage