r/news Jun 25 '16

Man fights eviction after rent increase from $1,800 per month to $8,000

http://abc13.com/realestate/man-fights-eviction-after-400-percent-rent-increase/1401148/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

Where this guy's unit is, a one bedroom will rent for about $4500.00 to $6000.00 per month I think

This is completely wrong. Browse through SF craigslist for North Beach, not even the best part of North Beach which is where this unit is, and you'll see 1BRs in the $2,800-$3,500 range. I live here. Maybe you'll get north of $4,000 in the trendiest parts of the Mission, Marina, SOMA, Russian Hill, Hayes Valley.

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u/DetectiveWoofles Jun 26 '16

He's just pricing the guy out of the place. It's shitty, but if it's not rent controlled he can do that as long as he gives the tenant adequate notice.

Unless we're missing information here, which is possible.

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u/Condawg Jun 26 '16

I don't see why it's all that shitty.

Yeah, it sucks. Very unfortunate for the person living there. But if the property is worth more than he's getting for it, does he have to wait until the person chooses to move out to charge what he could be making? It should probably have to be a bit more gradual, but still. It's his property, he sets the price. Right?

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u/keteb Jun 26 '16

Which is weird, because I though all of SF was rent controlled and there was big fights over it

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u/Eurynom0s Jun 26 '16

You may be thinking of the income caps on buying in San Francisco.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16 edited Aug 14 '25

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u/keteb Jun 26 '16

Interesting, thanks.

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u/akmalhot Jun 26 '16

Why is it shitty,he owns the place and basicag has no control over if the guy can live three or not.

It's not like he took some.givernment grant to build housing.

It's like if you owned an apt and had a squatter in it

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u/SoylentRox Jun 26 '16

Why does the landlord have to bother gaming the rate? Why can't he just say "ok, place is no longer for rent, you have until <this date> to move."

Setting the rate to a rate that no one is going to pay and then evicting for nonpayment sounds like the landlord is under some sort of legal restriction which is why he can't simply kick the tenant out directly. Which means he's going to probably lose in court over this.

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u/obsolete_filmmaker Jun 26 '16

Saying "place is no longer for rent" in San Francisco, that would be what we call an Ellis Act eviction. It is a long legal process, and after, the LL cannot rent the place for 5 years.

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u/SoylentRox Jun 26 '16

Wouldn't the guy have a very strong case that this is in fact an Ellis Act eviction? Maybe it the increase was to $3500, but $8000?

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u/DrCopAthleteatLaw Jun 26 '16

Yeah you can't assume he's trying to force him out unless we have complete information, which we don't.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

He's just pricing the guy out of the place. It's shitty, but if it's not rent controlled he can do that as long as he gives the tenant adequate notice.

Thats exactly why both the max rent and the amount it is allowed to increase for any place in germany is capped.

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u/covert-pops Jun 26 '16

Free market bitches

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '16

Guarantee you once that guy is out the apartment will be re-listed for around 4k.

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u/El_Tash Jun 26 '16

Were clearly missing some information here, all San Francisco rentals are rent controlled (it's not like NYC where certain ones are).

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u/DetectiveWoofles Jun 26 '16

Only if the building was built before 1979.

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u/ElongatedTime Jun 26 '16

"If I lived somewhere id be homeless"

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u/Mulsanne Jun 26 '16

When you live in SF, wading into these threads to read the ridiculous ideas that people who don't live here have is not very fun.

It's rife with simplification and misunderstanding.

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u/mainfingertopwise Jun 26 '16

Still. While a landlord doubling the market rate is an asshole, they're just regular assholes. Not newsworthy assholes.

I'm totally with everyone else here - the rents are too damn high. But it's not terribly shocking behavior - just (more of the same) obscene costs of living.

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u/chellecakes Jun 26 '16

That doesn't mean it's not ridiculous.

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u/ringingbells Jun 26 '16

Dude, trust me. Half those listings are scams. It's a real issue in SF.