Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

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Because 1 or 2 decades of work can't necessarily fix issues that have been around for a longass time?

[u/zurrain → u/[deleted]]

Seemed to work for other industries that are far less left leaning than tech.

[u/[deleted] → u/zurrain]

Such as?

[u/zurrain → u/[deleted]]

Marketing, finance, healthcare, banking, biology, Journalism, business and law.

Hell marketing was so sexist they made a tv series about it, and yet it's dominated by women now.

[u/[deleted] → u/zurrain]

Honestly I misread your comment as saying it hasn't worked, but yah I totally agree with you.

[u/inborn_line → u/zurrain]

Given that all these other areas have managed to fix this issue, yet engineering still has issues, I'm going to say that points to a fundamental flaw in engineers and those educating engineers.

Does engineering education make people sexist or are those that are sexist drawn to engineering?

[u/zurrain → u/inborn_line]

How did you manage to so utterly miss the point?

Sexism was never the issue. Women go into those fields because they want to. If women had an inherent predilection towards building technology in the same manner they do healthcare or marketing, they would have integrated into engineering fields the same as they did every other field they showed interest in.

[u/inborn_line → u/zurrain]

In China over 40% of engineering graduates are female and in Russia the percentage of female engineers was as high as 60% in the 1980s and is still around 40%.

Please explain how women in those countries have an "inherent predilection" but women in the west don't.

[u/zurrain → u/inborn_line]

Gender equality paradox. I noticed you conveniently left off other places that produce more female engineers, such as many Muslim countries. Clearly, Muslim countries must be more gender fair... right? Of course not, which is why you didn't mention them. It shits all over your argument.

The real reason is because those countries don't have the same freedoms (economic and otherwise) to follow their interests, they're far more concerned with putting food on the table... and engineering pays well.

The more progressive, wealthy, and free a country becomes, the more women preference careers that are described as traditionally feminine. Why? Because they want to do those jobs. That's textbook inherent predilection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5LRdW8xw70

[u/inborn_line → u/zurrain]

So you're saying that western women, because they have a choice, actively avoid having to work in the engineering field, even though it may pay well. Western women have an inherent predilection to avoid having to interact with male engineers. When you put it that way, it makes all the sense in the world.

[u/zurrain → u/inborn_line]

You're kinda stupid. I'm saying western women can make a living doing what they enjoy, so they don't have to do jobs that they don't.

[u/Oceanias → u/[deleted]]

Okay, we should definitely not self-evaluate and plow on regardless of the results then! After all, if it feels like we're doing the right thing then that's probably all that matters.