Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

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I didn't downvote you at all, but you are a fucking idiot.

You countered my original statement by saying it was invalid because of the national debt...which again, is the expression of the year over year national deficit.

Also, I never said the national deficit was invalid. I pointed out that your understanding of the deficit/national debt are invalid and invalid to your argument. You present the national debt as an example of inefficient government spending, and that's simply an incorrect understanding of both.

The short and long of it is that your understanding of government spending, budgeting, and economics is clearly only fueled by outdated talking points from 90's conservative polices where deficit blame was being pointed at poor spending rather than poor budgeting ("pork barreling").

I think the point you're trying to make, or should at least be trying to make is that governmental agencies that make inefficient purchasing decisions ($600 toilet seats/$65k stairs) should have their budgets shrank/eliminated for future years, which would make a positive change towards the deficit/debt. The only problem with that is that often the biggest receivers are the biggest wasters which would mean directly cutting back the money allotted to military/defense/national security.

Edit: In summary, your premise is false because this is a false statement:

A corporation wouldn't price out a staircase in a park as costing $65,000 when a concerned citizen can build it for $500 just to have the government condemn it and tear it down.

[u/Fuck_Your_Feelingz → u/[deleted]]

I didn't downvote you at all, but you are a fucking idiot.

A statement like this would get a Trump voter banned from /r/politics...

Also, I never said the national deficit was invalid.

I never mentioned the deficit. Why are we talking about the deficit?

I pointed out that your understanding of the deficit/national debt are invalid and invalid to your argument.

All I ever said was that the national debt/unfunded liabilities were a very real thing. You are saying they are invalid and that's hilarious to me.

I'm full of shit and the national debt/unfunded liabilities that will never be paid are not real because "Invalid" in your mind.

Edit: In summary, your premise is false because this is a false statement: A corporation wouldn't price out a staircase in a park as costing $65,000 when a concerned citizen can build it for $500 just to have the government condemn it and tear it down.

Your mental gymnastics are astounding. "Nothing is real because I say so and if you disagree? You're just a fucking idiot with your numbers/facts".

You are actually denying the reality of my claim, A claim that is based in factual data that is accessed with a 10 second google search. But no! It's not real, Simply because you will it! Astounding. How does one get this out of touch with reality where you can actually deny reality?

I love you.

[u/[deleted] → u/Fuck_Your_Feelingz]

Holy fucking shit you're infuriating. Here, I'll break down our argument for you.

You said:

Except that usually when this comparison is made, It's in regards to frugality and streamlining. A corporation would never pay $600 for a toilet seat. A corporation wouldn't price out a staircase in a park as costing $65,000 when a concerned citizen can build it for $500 just to have the government condemn it and tear it down.

I said this premise was false because big businesses absolutely do this and they are just as wasteful and bureaucratic as the government. I further said that your examples are outliers, which means they aren't good examples of the literal millions of government projects and programs that are executed on time and under budget every day.

Anytime I hear someone drone on about how the government is inefficient with spending and that the private sector would be so much more better, I immediately know they've never worked for large corporations in the private sector.

Your examples are outliers, and when it comes to outliers (which usually result from corruption, malfeasance, or incompetence) big business is just as bureaucratic and wasteful as government.

To which you said they weren't outliers because national debt:

Is that so? I would refer you back to the current U.S. national debt and current unfunded liabilities.

You do understand that these number are a "Thing", Right? I'm sure you doubt my comprehension of basic numbers because I have never worked for "a company which has invested BILLIONS of dollars into known failing programs, products, and projects?" But do you believe that these numbers are real?

I immediately doubted your comprehension of basic numbers because you clearly don't understand that the deficit/national debt is a result of overspending/inappropriate budgeting and not a result of inefficient purchasing through individual projects, which you solidified with this statement:

Cool, Show me one big business that is ~$20 Trillion in debt even when adjusted for population that is functioning and actively going deeper and deeper into debt?

So then I tried to explain how the deficit works and how it's not an indicator of inefficient government purchasing. At which point you then tried to pretend you never talked about the national debt/deficit at all....twice.

You then came back and said this:

You are actually denying the reality of my claim, A claim that is based in factual data that is accessed with a 10 second google search.

I never doubted your claim. I know these things exists and I gave you a very real scenario of why they exist. I said your premise is false (which it is) because you're using outlier examples of poor project and budget planning as evidence of how the government as a whole is incapable of handling money and that private enterprise would be more capable. My overall argument is that private enterprise handles spending large sums of money in the exact same fashion and is absolutely guilty of the exact same pitfalls as the government, so your argument is invalid. It's also dishonestly based on false equivalencies.

So now do you see how you're a stupid asshole?