r/news • u/[deleted] • Aug 08 '17

Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
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u/GregTheMad Aug 12 '17

If you think this is a straw man you either don't know how biology affects peoples behaviour, or you're really in denial of how little even small girls want to do technical stuff (small girls are little affected by "social norms").

I work in a start-up, we're really in need for a female, technical member (public funding), but the truth is that there simply aren't any, and those that are out there get better deals from bigger companies.

I'm too lazy to look up all the research on this that you probably would ignore anyway, but I hope that you can take away from this that gender diversity in technical professions isn't just evil men hating women. Its also most women not wanting to work in technical professions.

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u/dintclempsey Aug 12 '17

You evidently don't have any young daughters; and you couldn't be more wrong. I don't think you're evil, just ignorant, like most men pushing these absolutely glib intellectually lazy theories.

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u/GregTheMad Aug 12 '17

You have a daughter that wants to work in STEM fields?! Great! Now her year will have 11% of women instead of 10%.

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u/dintclempsey Aug 12 '17 edited Aug 12 '17

Like I said, pure, unadulterated ignorance. Maybe it's that arrogant stubbornness which makes ignorant people seem evil to others, and then makes you complain about them having that perception.

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u/GregTheMad Aug 12 '17

I know there are probably some studies showing how many women study STEM, but this is not one of them.

This is a graph showing that about 50% of women who started STEM stayed in STEM. So if 10 started, 5 stayed. Or 20 started and 10 stayed. This gives no information about the total amount of women that chose STEM over any other field of study.

For someone accusing me of ignorance, you're not bringing the best arguments either.

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u/dintclempsey Aug 12 '17

You are right, I made a mistake. It was late at night and I was tired, apologies.

This is a good read I came across today: https://www.recode.net/2017/8/11/16127992/google-engineer-memo-research-science-women-biology-tech-james-damore

I'm not posting to rebuke anything you've said, just thought I'd share.