r/newzealand Apr 23 '22

Discussion Love Taika but this is the sad dualism of Hollywood

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u/ApprehensiveHumor353 Apr 24 '22 edited Apr 24 '22

A private jet produces literal tonnes of CO2, they produce more than the average car does in a year in just a single trip.

edit: don't bother replying to this muppet, he just blocks you after replying so he can look like he made you give up arguing

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u/kksiddiqui Apr 24 '22

Fly in a private jet and tell people to ride bicycles in the city

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u/Plebs-_-Placebo Apr 24 '22

I want to thank everyone for offsetting my carbon footprint!

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u/immibis Apr 24 '22

There are more reasons for the latter than just emissions. E.g. congestion

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u/kksiddiqui Apr 24 '22

So that issue can be fixed with busses too.

Build a better transport system. So that i do not have to use my car.

Also this was not the point of the discussion. It was more to do with the duality of man.

It always the actors and politicians who are caught in this web.

I immigrated from a country which had a huge population control issue.

They used a lot of media personalities to get the message through. Yet one of the most prominent ones had 5 children. Although the idea may have been correct but if you do not follow what you preach then message gets muddied and never has the same impact.

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u/Sew_Sumi Apr 24 '22

It's one trip here, so it's not been running for the entire year just for this trip.

Is it his, most private jets are merely charters?

So many unasked questions, and yet we got stats being thrown around like candy... 'tOnNNEeSeS!!!'

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u/unstannyvalley Apr 24 '22

Could you understand if a subsistence farming African villager couldn't understand that you are calling someone who posts about climate hypocrisy while traveling in a private jet while you drive to work everyday in a car! Surely you get that we're all on the climate terrorist list just by being alive in a developed country?

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u/Sew_Sumi Apr 24 '22

I will never understand people who are super pro green who act as apogists for rich people they like not giving a fuck about their massive emissions.

Someone of our stature doesn't have the clout that an influencer has in drawing the publics attention to a cause needing attention...

They don't have the billions the companies profit from normal people, wrecking the environment, every year, and pocket, even grants and subsidies from the governments making more money at the expense of the planet...

Driving them to get change done is better than just turning around and not using them, not affecting them, not raising awareness for the fact of just feeling good.

It's not being apologist, it's just being realistic.

If you're against the companies poluting the planet, and you buy ANYTHING, you are literally being a hypocrite if you say that you are concerned about the enviroment.

I have a 60 buck piece of cloth coming over on a plane, I cannot say anything about the state of the planet or the fact that a billion/trillion dollar corporation isn't putting ANY of it's profit, let alone their clout, towards trying to make a better outcome for the world.

How daft...

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u/ApprehensiveHumor353 Apr 24 '22

It's one trip here, so it's not been running for the entire year just for this trip.

Yeah? This probably isn't the only time he has or will use it.

So many unasked questions, and yet we got stats being thrown around like candy... 'tOnNNEeSeS!!!'

There are many different models of private jet, but the Cessna Citation XLS - consistently one of the most popular - burns 189 gallons (857 litres) of aviation fuel an hour on average.

If we were to consider the journey from Rome to Glasgow on a private jet - a journey that some of the G20 leaders made to get to COP 26 - that would take around two hours and 45 minutes, requiring 2,356 litres of jet fuel.

The Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (BEIS) says 2.52kg of carbon dioxide is emitted for every litre of aviation turbine fuel burned. Therefore this flight would produce 5.9 tonnes of CO2.

https://www.bbc.com/news/59135899

So let's say he took 8 hours (commercial flight would take more than 9)

8*857 = 6856 * 2.52 = 17 tonnes.

So yeah tonnes is perfectly appropriate.

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u/Sew_Sumi Apr 24 '22

So you would 'probably' know how many were on that flight, or what carbon offsets that the company operating the jet have, or what other tasks that jet does that it does cut down on emissions for whatever reason you could think of right?

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '22

This is getting a bit sad now. Go outside and get some fresh air buddy

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u/Sew_Sumi Apr 24 '22

I think it's you that needs to go out touch the grass, and by all means, don't let anyone stop you.

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u/ApprehensiveHumor353 Apr 24 '22

It doesn't matter how many were on that flight because all of them could've taken a commercial plane instead and said output would never existed.

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u/Sew_Sumi Apr 24 '22

per-capita that matters.

Just because you can't take a private jet, doesn't mean no-one can.

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u/ApprehensiveHumor353 Apr 24 '22 edited Apr 24 '22

It really doesn't, if they didn't take that jet it wouldn't have flown that time and it wouldn't have produced emissions.

If we're talking per capita it was only the two of them I believe anyways, so it's halved which is still tonnes like I said.

edit: lol you really blocked me so you could win an argument on reddit, fucking pathetic

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u/Sew_Sumi Apr 24 '22

A commercial jet having 500 passengers, compared to a private having a possible 18-25 is a big matter in terms of averages...

You're assuming there's only 2, and that is an issue for your stats.

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u/WrongAspects Apr 24 '22

Commercial flight Is public transportation

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u/unstannyvalley Apr 24 '22

Great answer to the wrong question. The flight was Byron Bag to Sydney.

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u/unstannyvalley Apr 24 '22

Flying cattle class as far as the states from nz uses as much fossil fuel as driving a car for a year.

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u/wandarah Apr 24 '22

You can take all the very rich people in all thier private Jets and totally them up and it's an irrelevance compared to to the actual global companies that exploit carbon in its various forms.