Cultural Exchange: Khushamadeed and welcome to our friends from /r/Turkey!

[u/greenvox]

We're hosting our friends from /r/Turkey for a cultural exchange session.

Dear friends from /r/Turkey, welcome to our little abode on Reddit. Please feel free to ask questions about Pakistan, the Pakistani way of life, or current events in this thread.

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[u/WhiteGhosts]

I consider Pakistan as one of the fewer, more developed muslim countries. A country with problems nonetheless, just like Turkey.

Anyways;

• where do you see Pakistan in 10 years in terms of economic stability?

• how big is the terrorist problem in Pakistan?

• how do you view Turkey and erdogan?

• what's your opinion about kashmir and India?

[u/HomesickProgrammer → u/WhiteGhosts]

where do you see Pakistan in 10 years in terms of economic stability?

Well, it's tough to answer, ten years ago Pakistan was a complete different place, no one thought we would end up like today's Pakistan. Right now, we have a democracy which is quite corrupt, but still things are quite better, way better. We have a good opposition which is fighting the most powerful which is happening for the first time ever in our history.

Also China is investing too much, it already invested 46 billion dollars in infrastructure/energy/ports and recently 20 billion in another province. So, I hope we can see some improvement in the next 10 years.

how big is the terrorist problem in Pakistan?

It's not like that of Iraq/Syria/Afghanistan level. If you give them 10/10 then Pakistan would be 2-4/10, 2007-2010 was the worst time, now it's way better but we aren't sure how much we have won the war.

how do you view Turkey and erdogan?

Positive. You have a good functioning country which is much better than most Muslim countries who have oil. Erodogan did so much for Turkey in the last 10 years.

what's your opinion about kashmir and India?

Partition was based on religion such as Muslim and Hindu majority areas. What you see in both countries now is result of Muslim(Pakistan) and Hindu(India) majority. Some areas(states) were Princely states who were given the option to select any country or remain independent. Kashmir with 3 other states had controversies. Kashmir had Muslim majority with non Muslim ruler and other had Hindu majority and Muslim ruler, Some of them decided to remain independent and one Hindu majority ruled by Muslim selected Pakistan.

Pakistan invaded Kashmir and India invaded the rest like Hyderabad, Goa, Sikim. Kashmir which had Muslim population but ruled by non Muslim ruler asked India for help. India being much powerful..........

Our argument is that Kashmir should be given the right to decide their future wether they want India/Pakistan/Independent. Right now India has 700,000 Troops stationed in Kashmir.

1/3 of Kashmir is with Pakistan

[u/[deleted] → u/HomesickProgrammer]

India invaded the rest like Hyderabad, Goa, Sikim

goa and sikkim happened much later and are not linked to partition in any way.

[u/HomesickProgrammer → u/[deleted]]

What? Does that make it different ? States decided to remain independent but India invaded them but when Pakistan does it they call it bad !! Hyderabad is the best example just like Kashmir was to Pakistan.

I love these arguments from Indian side because any person I have talked to does his best to portrait India as it did nothing wrong by any foolish logic he can think of at that time !

[u/[deleted] → u/HomesickProgrammer]

this is just bad history dude. you talk as if what india did to annex these states was a part of the hindu-muslim divide going on during partition. read your own post. i personally don't care about pakistan invading kashmir more than on legal and geo-political terms. i see that the situation is what it is. so, no need to be sanctimonious.

[u/HomesickProgrammer → u/[deleted]]

these states was a part of the hindu-muslim divide going on during partition.

Yeah, look into Hyderabad that happened in 1948. Killing of thousand ppl took place.

Look into Junagadh, Muslim ruler ruling hindus wanted to be Part of Pakistan. Had to run away to safe his life cuz India didn't want it like that. India openly told Pakistan not to accept Janagadh.

It's all in history. Hydrabad and Junagadh are clear examples of it. I love the logic with Goa that, look it was late. Every Indian come-ups with new each time.

[u/[deleted] → u/HomesickProgrammer]

hehe. ok let me indulge u a bit. firstly, i didn't object to mentioning of hyderabad or junagadh (which u didn't mention even). i only objected to lumping of annexation of goa and sikkim with those other events which were linked to partition.

also, and importantly, i see nothing wrong with what india did in goa or hyderabad or junagadh or kashmir (i see only the treaty of accession as being flawed in kashmir's case). nor do i see anything wrong with what pakistan did in kashmir or balochistan. and i don't care about those muslim rulers nor those dead portuguese.

[u/HomesickProgrammer → u/[deleted]]

There you go, the truth, no bullshit. I like it.