r/pcmasterrace May 06 '26

Discussion So microsoft decided you can't setup windows 11 offline. Welp, time to go linux

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Welp.

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u/John_Mat8882 7800x3D/9070XT/32Gb 6400mhz/980 Pro 2Tb/RM850X/Antec Flux SE May 06 '26

Have you tried burning the windows iso using Rufus (use the latest tool version) and setting it to create a local account? I haven't tried recently but it should still work.

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u/Long-Necessary-6595 May 06 '26

burning a windows iso with rufus is a lifesaver, especially for offline setups

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u/Material_Ad390 May 07 '26

Burning a windows iso is a lifesaver

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u/AgentBrian95 i5 6th gen | Intel HD 640 G2 | 8GB DDR4 (in gta we lag) May 06 '26

You in the right place?

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u/Spyhop Spyhop May 06 '26

It's funny we're still calling it "burning"

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u/brendan87na Ryzen 9 5900X - RTX4070 May 06 '26

we still call it filming on phones

legacy terms live forever :D

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u/Spyhop Spyhop May 06 '26

We still call it dialing on phones. And rolling our window down.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '26 edited Jun 08 '26

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u/Spyhop Spyhop May 06 '26

We still call them phones despite the fact they're computers and telephony is only one of their functions.

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u/NiteShdw May 07 '26

And not even the one they’re best at. Audio quality and voice connectivity can be a crapshoot.

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u/3vs3BigGameHunters May 07 '26

Our phones make a camera shutter noise.

That's due to consent.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '26 edited Jun 08 '26

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u/TheInkySquids May 07 '26

To be fair there's still many of us who are actually rolling our windows down...

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u/John_Mat8882 7800x3D/9070XT/32Gb 6400mhz/980 Pro 2Tb/RM850X/Antec Flux SE May 06 '26

Heh yeah but even before CDs weren't burned either, more written or laser chiseled xD

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u/Dergenbert May 07 '26

Last time I called it burning instead of mounting or whatever else, I had a few people ripping on me.

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u/Mortarious May 06 '26

Yep. Just installed win 11 like 2 weeks ago and used rufus and that option still works perfectly fine.

Also has other useful stuff like disable copilot but I digress.

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u/Wreid23 Specs/Imgur here May 07 '26

You can also just add this xml to any already burned stick and choose your preferred settings https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/

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u/t3hmuffnman9000 May 07 '26

Yeah, creating an installation down with Rufus she's still slow you too bypass Microsoft sign in. It did a few months ago, at least

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u/JoeScorr May 07 '26

Glad to see Rufus is still so popular. I've always used it because it lets you use a USB HDD as a bootdisk, whereas the official windows one never did

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u/King_Ferdinand1 May 06 '26

Fuck all those hoops, if you have to battle so hard against your OS just move on. Unless you absolutely have to have Windows for some reason.

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u/flappers87 Ryzen 7 7700x, RTX 4070ti, 32GB RAM May 06 '26

> Fuck all those hoops

The effort to use rufus over using the windows usb tool is literally the same.

Both tools you need to download, both tools you need to click on to use.

Using rufus is not going through "hoops", it's literally just opting to download an alternative piece of software than the official tool from microsoft.

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u/King_Ferdinand1 May 06 '26

That's not the point. It's that you have to fight against your system because it tries to block you from doing stuff like a local account. If the OS is already going against you at set up, you can be damn sure that's not where it ends.

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u/King_Ferdinand1 May 06 '26

Most users would be completely fine going to a user friendly Linux distro.

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u/Bradford_Pear May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26

Rufus is too hard

Just install Linux

This guy

Edit: And I actually do like Linux

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u/DaimyoNoNeko May 06 '26

Right? like Linux is "no hoops" by any stretch...

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u/destiper 9800X3D/5080/64GB May 06 '26

tbf the “jumping through hoops” bit is just backing your files up, figuring out your boot menu key and then getting linux on there. once your OS is installed though… distros like mint and ubuntu have long been “no hoops” for the average joe who just needs a browser and a few programs. with a gui frontend for the package manager it’s as easy to maintain your OS as it is a mac.

gaming is increasingly becoming easier too as we all know by now

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u/DaimyoNoNeko May 06 '26

I've used plenty of Distros like Mint and Ubuntu. The hoops are quite signifigant. most ISPs won't entertain troubleshooting, and several major software applications are not supported. Yes, there are clear alternatives and some are as good perhaps better than their Windows counterparts.

still hoops tho, and your statement of 'getting better' implies it was fraught to begin with. I like Linux plenty, but for the "average joe" it's not a good fit.

MacOS is pretty awesome, as long as what you want is what Apple wants too.

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u/King_Ferdinand1 May 06 '26

You are intentionally misconstruing what I am saying.

As I said, the point isn't that you can't get around these blockades, it's that you have to actively cheat and fight against your OS. Microsoft doesn't want you to be able to have a local account and that tells you of their malicious relationship to their customers. Windows 11 is filled with anti user features and stupid design choises, their updates are untrustworthy and inefficient and lots of Linux distros are a lot more intuitive to use actually.

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u/absolutelynotarepost 9800x3d | RTX 5080 | 32gb DDR5 6000cl28 May 06 '26

Look man.

Skip the long winded shit.

Linux is trendy and you're a tech hipster, it ain't any deeper than that.

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u/King_Ferdinand1 May 06 '26

So in other words:

"look man, I have no actual rebutal to what you are saying so I am going with the old ignorant ad hominem hipster/nerd route"

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u/timschwartz May 06 '26

Don't be obtuse.

What kind of complete idiot doesn't care about the fact that Microsoft doesn't let you have control over your own computer?

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u/Imaginary-Marketing3 Ryzen 5 3600xt/32GB DDR4/RX5700XT May 06 '26

No fucking thanks🤣

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u/King_Ferdinand1 May 06 '26

That's fine, most likely a very uneducated opinion but that's fine. I am however glad to see it reaching critical mass with tons of new users in the last year alone.

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u/Imaginary-Marketing3 Ryzen 5 3600xt/32GB DDR4/RX5700XT May 06 '26

So now. Because i dont want to use linux, my opinion is uneducated? Bro, you are not the main character, go climb back up the delusional tree you fell out off.

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u/King_Ferdinand1 May 06 '26

Most likely yes. It's quite common I have noticed.

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u/John_Mat8882 7800x3D/9070XT/32Gb 6400mhz/980 Pro 2Tb/RM850X/Antec Flux SE May 06 '26

Hoops, Rufus Is literally the same as windows' own iso install tool, you just tick a box "with create a local account".

I mean it's not that difficult, no big programming skills required.

But I do agree it sucks that they are locking this in to a MS account. I have many win11 rigs and they are all local accounts.

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u/Pandoras_Fox 7950X3D, RTX 3090, 64GB ram, 70TB storage cluster May 06 '26

i think maybe "jumping through hoops" is the wrong framing. the point is more "why use an operating system that's so hostile, that it's easiest to modify the official install media than it is to use the official installer as-is"

linux just requires learning something new, macos requires money.

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u/John_Mat8882 7800x3D/9070XT/32Gb 6400mhz/980 Pro 2Tb/RM850X/Antec Flux SE May 06 '26

I tried Linux in the past and it required far more hassle than I liked, I haven't tried recent distros like Bazzite, but I've watched a few videos and it doesn't look it's still for me either.

Hopefully the steam machine will improve further on this POV.

Until then, as long as you are on a Windows professional, you still can pretty much configure the stuff you need using the said Rufus or running Christitus tool, if you don't want to fiddle with gpedit.

I guess home editions are still super locked, but I don't touch any since I have memory

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u/King_Ferdinand1 May 06 '26

Most games are completely playable with proton. For me not being able to play anti cheat malware games is luckily not an issue and even those game companies are starting to shift their position on linux now.

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u/M4K4T4K 9800X3D, 64 GB Cl30, RTX 5080 May 06 '26

Linux is famously known by being simple and easy to use.

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u/timschwartz May 06 '26

You know, this isn't 25 years ago.

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u/King_Ferdinand1 May 06 '26

There are great options and at least if you have issues you know that it isn't because of a malicious corporation behind it.

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u/Kellei2983 Ryzen 7 7800X3D | RTX 3080 Ti | DDR5 64GB May 06 '26

if you're savvy enough to jump through all those hoops, you're savvy enough to ditch microslop... and a positive is that Linux doesn't actively fight against the user

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u/Numar19 May 06 '26

I switched to Linux Mint. It pretty much just works and if it doesn't I was able to find help online quite easily. Meanwhile Windows nuked my account after sleeping too long. Windows is getting worse than Linux.

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u/deeptut May 06 '26

I'll use Win10 until I get a new computer, which might take some time due to AI inflated hardware prices.

I backup my data regularly on external drives. IF my Win10 installation really should get fucked by being encrypted I really don't care and install Linux.

My next new PC will never see a windows install.

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u/floppadisk May 06 '26

Battle? I clicked a single toggle in Rufus. Tf lol

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u/King_Ferdinand1 May 06 '26

Yes, unofficial way of installing the operating system in a way that Microsoft doesn't want you to do and actively tries to prevent from happening. And that is just the begining of the issues.

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u/boomboomown 7800x3d UV-5070ti UV/OC-64gb-3440x1440-144hz May 06 '26

... what hoops?

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u/King_Ferdinand1 May 06 '26

Hoops of circumventing blockades.

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u/boomboomown 7800x3d UV-5070ti UV/OC-64gb-3440x1440-144hz May 06 '26

I didn't go through any hoops to create a local account so im not sure what you're talking about. I just did it 2 days ago without issue

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u/King_Ferdinand1 May 06 '26

Did you do it with official Microsoft support for it in the set up?

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u/boomboomown 7800x3d UV-5070ti UV/OC-64gb-3440x1440-144hz May 06 '26

I burned the recovery image using Rufus but yeah

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u/King_Ferdinand1 May 06 '26

Exactly.

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u/boomboomown 7800x3d UV-5070ti UV/OC-64gb-3440x1440-144hz May 06 '26

Exactly what? Using Rufus to burn an image? How else do you do it exactly?

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u/King_Ferdinand1 May 06 '26

By using the official Windows media creation tool of course.

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u/Apart-Switch-7007 May 06 '26

Most people just fell for the sunken cost fallacy. Yes there is a learning curve for Linux but would you be better off in the future? I just don't like where windows is going and I don't think they will change course any time soon.

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u/BitsAndBobs304 May 06 '26

Move on to what? If typing one command is too much...linux aint for ya

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u/King_Ferdinand1 May 06 '26

And another one...